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post #11 of 22 Old 08-04-2011, 09:51 PM Thread Starter
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so every water change add some salt?

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post #12 of 22 Old 08-05-2011, 06:42 AM
it wont hurt the discus but not too much.it helps with their slime coat

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post #13 of 22 Old 08-05-2011, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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can i move both of the breeding pairs in my 75 gallon planted tank with my loaches
? if its just them with some angels?

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post #14 of 22 Old 08-05-2011, 04:24 PM
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I love the color of the first one!

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post #15 of 22 Old 08-05-2011, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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me to i love th blues

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post #16 of 22 Old 08-06-2011, 01:05 AM
for display yes but if you want to try to breed you're gonna have to move them to a breeding tank

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
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3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
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post #17 of 22 Old 08-06-2011, 02:55 AM
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I must disagree with using salt with discus. Soft water fish in general should not be subjected to salt--by which I mean sodium salt like table salt. Marine salt is slightly different and even worse.

These fish occur in waters with very few if any electrolytes. Salt adds electrolytes to the water. Long-term this is quite detrimental to the fish.

The fact that the fish will produce more mucus and slime when salt is in the water is because they are trying to get away from it. It is stressful, and that weakens the immune system. It also burns the gills, and can burn the skin on scaleless fish (loaches, etc). This can occur at fairly low levels.

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post #18 of 22 Old 08-06-2011, 04:07 AM
hmm.. something new.the discus that are bred in penang is accustomed to salt to the extent it is used if the fish are somewhat not so active.these aquarium bred discus seem to actually like the salt maybe it's due to them being bred and kept in this condition. as for the soft water discus that don't agree with salt it could be wild caught or bred in a different way from ours

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3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
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post #19 of 22 Old 08-06-2011, 05:55 AM Thread Starter
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Im not a big salt user as it is but i did use it and it seemed to help the discus very fast no stress bars her eyes are clearing up and shes eating alot more now i dont use much because i dont want to harm them.

thank you for that information ill take that into consideration on using it in the future.

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hmm.. something new.the discus that are bred in penang is accustomed to salt to the extent it is used if the fish are somewhat not so active.these aquarium bred discus seem to actually like the salt maybe it's due to them being bred and kept in this condition. as for the soft water discus that don't agree with salt it could be wild caught or bred in a different way from ours
The physiology of a fish cannot be altered by breeding so salts detrimental properties remain with the species. Increased activity in response to salt is somewhat to be expected--the fish doesn't like it. More mucus, slime, etc indicates an attempt to "remove" it. While this can have therapeutic value--adding salt cause excess mucus which brings fresh blood to the surface faster, thus healing wounds faster--it is not long-term a good practice. I can cite many biologists on this, and I suspect they know more than most of us on the subject. I tend to accept their advice. Like going to a doctor when you're sick and then ignoring what he tells you, assuming you know better. I don't.

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