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post #1 of 10 Old 09-12-2011, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
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help with new angel

iv bought a new angelfish today and my existing angels are all nipping at it, is there anything i can do to help the new angel??????




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post #2 of 10 Old 09-12-2011, 10:26 AM
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Take them all out, rescape and put them back in. No guarantees though. The new one has messed with the pecking order. You may have to take it back if things don't improve in the 12 - 24 hours after rescaping.

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post #3 of 10 Old 09-12-2011, 10:41 AM
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I had this problem when I tried adding 2 new ones to my existing 2, fortunately I run 2 tanks so I removed the older ones for a few days, then put them back and the problem had resolved itself. Good luck
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post #4 of 10 Old 09-12-2011, 11:57 AM
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This is specifically mentioned in the profile, Pterophyllum scalare. Adding new angelfish to an existing group usually means trouble. The tank re-arrangement is a good suggestion, but depending upon the fish this may or may not work. Be prepared to return the new angels, or they will be dead.

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post #5 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 02:24 AM Thread Starter
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wel the new angel is slightly larger than the rest, it was alowwed to fee today with out been attacked so hopefully it will be ok :)_:):)

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post #6 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 02:53 AM
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It probably is good that it is a bit larger. Hopefully they let it into the group! :P The other suggestions are good too. Don't let the nipping get too bad or he may die.

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post #7 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 10:41 AM
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Also keep an eye on behaviours. It is not just physical nipping that causes stress. If the angels all group together fine; but if the new remain apart from the old, or if there is any sign of the new avoiding the old, even though no physical confrontation, not so good. Fish send out chemical signals and this can be highly stressful over time to the subordinate fish. Close observation is necessary, sitting in front of the tank motionless for an hour or so to observe the fish's behaviours and interaction.

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post #8 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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The next biggest angel I have had for few month keeps doing a full body "twitch" wen the larger new angel comes close, what does this mean ?
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post #9 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 03:57 PM
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The next biggest angel I have had for few month keeps doing a full body "twitch" wen the larger new angel comes close, what does this mean ?
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I would expect this fish (doing the twitching) to be a male. The other might be a male, in which case it is a display of dominance/subordination between males; or if the other is a female, it could be a display. This occurs in many species, I have seen male characins behave this way with each other and infront of a female--only last evening my Congo Tetra were doing this.

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post #10 of 10 Old 09-13-2011, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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I will keep my eye on them, but for now they seem to be getting along :):):)
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