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Green Terror died on me...why?
Old 05-03-2010, 08:06 AM   #1
 
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It's obviously too late for this to help due to the fact that I woke up this morning and my green terror that I purchased on thursday was already dead. I'm trying to figure out why it died so I don't go throwing another $20 down the toilet...literally. I have a 45 gallon hex tank housing a very small veiltail albino tiger oscar, a polypterus, a huge hi fin pleco, and a very small upside down catfish. From the day I put the fish in the tank, it would stay to itself in the back of the tank, I figured bc the oscar was claiming the front of the tank and it just needed time to adjust to the community. I've been feeding twice a day with a mix of cichlid pellets, freshwater pellets, bottom feeder tabs, and an algae tab. He made it 4 days so I can guess that he was eating? Does anything look peculiar as far as the mix of fish I had? I really want to buy another one but I'm not trying to have it die on me again...
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:16 AM   #2
 
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It's obviously too late for this to help due to the fact that I woke up this morning and my green terror that I purchased on thursday was already dead. I'm trying to figure out why it died so I don't go throwing another $20 down the toilet...literally. I have a 45 gallon hex tank housing a very small veiltail albino tiger oscar, a polypterus, a huge hi fin pleco, and a very small upside down catfish. From the day I put the fish in the tank, it would stay to itself in the back of the tank, I figured bc the oscar was claiming the front of the tank and it just needed time to adjust to the community. I've been feeding twice a day with a mix of cichlid pellets, freshwater pellets, bottom feeder tabs, and an algae tab. He made it 4 days so I can guess that he was eating? Does anything look peculiar as far as the mix of fish I had? I really want to buy another one but I'm not trying to have it die on me again...
How small was the green terror? How large is the bichir? Bichir and Oscar appear fine?
I might still review results from water tests for ammonia and nitrites along with nitrates.
Would also consider drip acclimation for new fish which in my view ,results in better survival rates for fishes when moved from one body of water to another.
All of the fish you mention will quickly outgrow a 45 gal tank.
Could also be possible that the green terror was sick from the outset.

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Old 05-03-2010, 09:49 AM   #3
 
all of my other fish appear fine, no odd behaviors. the green terror was about 2", the oscar is about 2", bichir is closer to 3-4", pleco is about 9", and upside down cat is about 1". all water perameters are fine, actually did a water change the day after i bought the green terror. and yes i took about a half hour to acclimate him to the tank when i got him. as far as the bigger tank is concerned, i'm actually going to look at a 75 gallon tank tomorrow...however i won't need it if my fish are dying :(
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:19 AM   #4
 
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all of my other fish appear fine, no odd behaviors. the green terror was about 2", the oscar is about 2", bichir is closer to 3-4", pleco is about 9", and upside down cat is about 1". all water perameters are fine, actually did a water change the day after i bought the green terror. and yes i took about a half hour to acclimate him to the tank when i got him. as far as the bigger tank is concerned, i'm actually going to look at a 75 gallon tank tomorrow...however i won't need it if my fish are dying :(

Larger tank will allow more room for fish to grow and provide way more dilution capabilities of waste produced by fish, which will help to maintain water quality between water changes.
Drip acclimation can take an hour or more, and depending on the difference between water that fish came from and water in your tank or mine,, would be the way to go in my view.
As mentioned ,the fish may have been stressed or sick when purchased. Is not all that uncommon considering the stress the fish endure during shipping to the fish store, and then they are placed in tanks that may or may not recieve water changes ,waters are often high in nitrates or nitrites due to overcrowding,and fish are usually fed cheapest foods available.
Then the fish are purchased and once again, they must adapt to possibly quite different conditions that may be present in your tank or mine.
Always wise to ask fish store what the water parameters are in their tank and compare those numbers with your own. You might possibly ask them to hold the fish for you for a week at least before you purchase the fish. If you are regular customer,they should be willing to do so . Some others may hold the fish if you provide a holding fee or down payment so to speak. Seldom pays to purchase fish that have just arrived at the store, better to allow the fishes to adapt to the enviornment and any that fall sick in fish store tanks are the responsibility of the fish store.
Quarantine tank at home can also be quite useful in preventing disease from being introduced to your tank and it passes my understanding why more folks don't use them for newly purchased fish.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:17 AM   #5
 
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Sorry to hear about that. Was the green terror damaged that you could see?
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:42 AM   #6
 
thanks. no the GT had no fin damage or anything. he was just belly up at the bottom of the tank.

ironically i have a 10G quarantine tank running. i ended up putting some glass shrimp in there to keep the system running and i was afraid that the GT would kill them so i just put in right into the 45G with the oscar. thinking about it though the shrimp are not small enough to fit in a small GT's mouth so i probably could've gotten away with it.

i like that idea of having the store hold the fish, i am a regular there so they should honor it. but i wouldn't trust them to give them money on a fish where they could just let that one die and replace it with another sick one and say it was the original one.
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