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German Blue Rams - Not having any luck
Old 02-15-2007, 05:43 PM   #11
 
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i wouldnt try anymore blue rams in a tank with that ph, my tank has the exact same ph but i have bolivian rams and they are doing very well. The bolivian ram is very similar to the blue but has less colorful colors and is much more hardy.
That's why I asked the question. I have read some pretty conflicting things on GBRs one common thing is that ph isn't as big of a factor as having soft/hard water. I really don't care for the Bolivian, so if I can't keep the GBRs I may go with another peaceful cichlid. I am going to just wait and see how the female (at least I think it's a female) does. She seems very happy, swimming with Rainbows a lot of the time, and has very good coloring.
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:49 PM   #12
 
ph plays a big factor in the short term, when you first get it, the hard/soft water plays effect in the long term. Do you use any ph altering chemicals or ph altering anything?
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:23 PM   #13
 
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The method I outlined above will also soften your water tremendously which will help in the keeping of blue rams.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:42 PM   #14
 
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The method I outlined above will also soften your water tremendously which will help in the keeping of blue rams.
I am actually going to start to get a plan together for this FD, and will probably bite the bullet and get an RO/DI filter. Factoring in the cost of the Distilled bottle water and the cost of the RO/DI filter I will be looking at an ROI of about a year to 18 mths.

And musho I do not use any ph altering chemicals, just dechlorinated tap right now.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:19 AM   #15
 
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I have three german blue rams in 8.2 pH water, they have layed eggs and appear happy--we have had them for a long time. A lot of people in this region have good luck with rams (all with high pH water) I simply cannot agree that the problem with rams is the pH of the water.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:25 AM   #16
 
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I would wonder, however, if your water pH or hardness is significantly different from where you purchase your fish.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:54 PM   #17
 
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I have three german blue rams in 8.2 pH water, they have layed eggs and appear happy--we have had them for a long time. A lot of people in this region have good luck with rams (all with high pH water) I simply cannot agree that the problem with rams is the pH of the water.
I don't think it's the ph either, I think it has to do with the hardness of the water. I took the GBR back to the LFS as she lost color, and was keeping all of her fins closed and I really didn't want her to wind up dead. I got 2 Bolovian Rams instead, which handle hard water much better than the GBRs from what I have read.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:56 PM   #18
 
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I would wonder, however, if your water pH or hardness is significantly different from where you purchase your fish.
I know that mine water is harder than the LFS. They keep the GBRs in a tank that has much softer water.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:59 PM   #19
 
Many people think bolivian rams colors are to normal but actually they can look really nice, obviously not as good as the blue ram but if you have good temperature, 80+ (mine is at 79-80) and good water conditions, they will have beautiful colors, mine are starting to have little rainbow colored spots on the gills, they are also getting gold bellies and one of them has a slight pink belly, but i dont think its female since they arent pairing up nor are they even getting along. Oh well, i hope you have good luck with the bolivians, they are much more hardier.
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:14 PM   #20
 
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Many people think bolivian rams colors are to normal but actually they can look really nice, obviously not as good as the blue ram but if you have good temperature, 80+ (mine is at 79-80) and good water conditions, they will have beautiful colors, mine are starting to have little rainbow colored spots on the gills, they are also getting gold bellies and one of them has a slight pink belly, but i dont think its female since they arent pairing up nor are they even getting along. Oh well, i hope you have good luck with the bolivians, they are much more hardier.
In all honesty at the LFS the lights are not good, I got the Bolovians home and got them into my tank and they really look good. They are large 2.5" already and one has a really gold belly/throat area....really nice actually.
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