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post #11 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
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I meant the current group of 6 fish but in the larger 55 gallon tank. You're saying it could hold up to 12 cichlid but it looks like I still have problems with the sex and different species of zebra, is that correct?
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post #12 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 03:19 PM
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Correct yes...because they are aggressive towards their own species, it will simply not work with keeping all 6 in the tank regardless of it being bigger.

Only way that it would work is in a 75g tank and over with a group of 1 Male to 4 female, that way the fish would be too busy going after it's own colored females to bother about the other color fish in the tank.

With regards to sex, only sure way to sex them is by venting them but they need to be quite large to be able to do it....if they are juveniles then all you can do is play a waiting game until they grow up.

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post #13 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 03:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Tazman for all your info on this. I think my first move will be to talk to the local aquarium store where 4 of the fish and the plants came from and see if they'll work with me on changing some fish, even if they get the current ones for free. IF I went with just the blues or yellows, could I keep 4 in the 29 gallon?
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post #14 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 03:47 PM
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I think the fish you are referring to as yellow zebra are Labidochromis caeruleus.

Is this correct?

There is actually no fish called a yellow zebra...If it is this one Pseudotropheus crabro then you have problems.


To be honest, none of them can be kept in a 29 Gallon tank...yellow labs yes just about but even then it is bit small.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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post #15 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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They look like that but I'm not noticing the black edge on the fins but they are still only about an 1". Definitely doesn't have the marking of the Crabro. Definitely feels like time to rethink my plan. Either a bigger tank with some of the fish traded out or the 29 with all new fish. Just hope I can find someone to take the fish I have.

What really bugs me is I ran the idea of two each of the three different color Africans in a 29 gallon to folks in two different pet stores and one aquarium only and no one had anything negative to say, in fact one person beamed about how great it would be.
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post #16 of 19 Old 01-31-2012, 04:13 PM
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Tragically it is what a lot of people go through, Pet stores are really only after your money. Sad but True, there are very few who actually care for the long term happiness of the fish once they get them in.

If you can get a 55g then you can still have a tank of Lake Malawi cichlids and I can and will help you along the way. The only thing the 29g is good for is the smaller South American shell dwelling cichlids, mbuna will not be happy in there as it is just too small for them.

The yellow labs would make a good starting point for a 55g as they get along with almost anything from Lake Malawi. You would want to stick with mbuna though as they are too active for the more peaceful peacocks. Even with the fish as small as they are now, it does not take long for them to grow and start spawning, once they reach spawning age, all hell will break out with the zebras if there are any females.

Truthfully, your fish store should take the fish back and offer you a store credit. You can also try posting in the classified section of the forum and also perhaps aquabid.com as well. You would be better off keeping the yellow labs and getting rid of the zebra.

Long term the yellow labs will breed with the zebras and leave you with hybrid unpredictable fry.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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post #17 of 19 Old 02-01-2012, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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Well, I think I have a place for the fish I don't keep. My wife is pretty high up the food chain at a large hospital in the area and they have a number of large tanks. She going to contact the aquarium service and let them know she has some fish they need to work into the tanks if possible.

One more question (for now). If I go to the 55 gallon, get a couple more of the yellow labs, could I also put a couple angels in there since the labs are less aggresive than most cichlids?
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post #18 of 19 Old 02-01-2012, 09:40 AM
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No angles do not mix well with mbuna.

The labs will nip at them and while mild in aggression levels for cichlids, they will injure / kill the angels.

Also the water parameters they need are different also.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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post #19 of 19 Old 02-01-2012, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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Again, thanks for all the info Tazman. I'll post once I get this all sorted out and have a new set up running.
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