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Discus kept alone, with schooling fish?
Old 02-21-2014, 10:45 PM   #11
 
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Discus kept alone, with schooling fish?

Chocolate gouramis are the most difficult species to keep. Not a beginner fish at all.

10% water change is not anywhere near sufficient.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:36 PM   #12
 
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Pouring powder into your water while doing your wc isn't exactly rocket science though, even for the beginner. We run everything from super low ph apistos to super high ph calvus and everything in between all off the same tap. Mostly without using additives aside from dw and aragonite.

I over filter hard with basically all canisters loaded with bio media but I only do 10% weekly or 25% bi weekly. Granted I cycle correctly and build up the stock level as time goes on. Never had rapid fish loss or a disease outbreak that wasn't caused by me being stupid and bringing in an unquarantined outsider. If it were to be a couple discus in the tank and you followed the standard over filter rule for cichlids as they are I personally think levels would stay healthy. If it's a garbage filter and there's over feeding going on in an overstocked tank, maybe not so healthy.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:59 PM   #13
 
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I would say No because they need a minimum of 5 to school/shoal and they like VERY acidic water. FYI, They are a difficult fish and for the "experienced". Here is the old profile for them to read up on. I'm not sure where the new one is and I'm pressed for time. Hope it helps.

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the discus is so difficult to take care of , i didnt change my water for 3 months, i left dead plants in my tank, filter pads weren't changed for months
. I fed them more food than a food bank actually has.
But now i turned my tank around and i have privately bred plants with an auto drain mechanism so im changing water every 3 days.

Dont ever listen to what people have to say about easy fish and hard difficult fish. as long as you change your water and have correct filtration and your not overfeeding you will be fine with a discus fish.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:12 PM   #14
 
Discus do need company and your tank really is too small for a group of them.The suggestion of Chocolate gourami was ridiculous and should be ignored. A realistic choice may be the thick-lipped gourami, not as popular as some but that lack of popularity has left a fish less inbred and much more predictable in behavior. Good Luck
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:35 PM   #15
 
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I don't know what it is with yall and thinking chocolate gourami are difficult to keep. You can keep any fish you want Ivan, and you can create any water conditions you would like with limited amount of effort. Find what you like, do your research, make the proper preparations.

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Old 03-06-2014, 08:18 PM   #16
 
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Getting back to the OP, what kinds of Rasbora and Tetra were you looking on stocking?

I think Lemon Tetras are a good option for your water based on the ph (do you know the numbers for gh/kh?), but Rasboras generally prefer softer water. What about Cherry Barbs? They're bright, active fish.

If I had the option I would totally go for Cherry Barbs. They're such gorgeous, fun fish that are easy to care for.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:28 PM   #17
 
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Dont ever listen to what people have to say about easy fish and hard difficult fish. as long as you change your water and have correct filtration and your not overfeeding you will be fine with a discus fish.
This is not true in the slightest. Discus require a large tank in the region of 75-90g as they get large when fully grown. The advantage of also keeping them in a larger tank is more stable water parameters. Having correct water parameters is more important than filtration. Many people over filter with discus, however this sometimes makes the flow too much for them.

I do have to agree though that this tank is too small to keep them to adulthood. Minimum shoals should be 5 fish with smaller species as tankmates, this makes it overstocked in a smaller tank.

Now some species to look at instead of Discus are Peacock Gudgeon, Red Honey Gourami, Dwarf fire Gourami, Harlequin Rasbora, Sterbai Cory (as bottom feeders) and Electic Blue rams.

I must ask though as no mention is made of it. What are your water parameters direct from your faucet / tap? This will play a big part in what can be stocked in your tank. Changing water parameters is not an easy task and depending on the parameters from the faucet / tap require a large investment to keep them in check.

The Original poster came here to ask for advice, NOT have users shoot them down, please kindly stay on the thread with no snarky or rude comments.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:33 PM   #18
 
if you are a beginner then i won't suggest you to keep them.Discus are hard to keep and should be kept in a group of 6 or more...
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:05 AM   #19
 
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I must ask though as no mention is made of it. What are your water parameters direct from your faucet / tap? This will play a big part in what can be stocked in your tank. Changing water parameters is not an easy task and depending on the parameters from the faucet / tap require a large investment to keep them in check.
Just tested my tap water parameters. I was very surprised to find that ammonia was at .25!! I did not know tap water could have ammonia! Here are the full parameters:

Ammonia: .25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10 or 20 ppm (I cannot distinguish the two colors on the chart for the life of me)
pH: 7.6

What are GH and KH?

Will it hurt my fish to have ammonia in the tap water? I am using Prime, and it says on the bottle that it detoxifies ammonia.

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Old 03-08-2014, 01:22 AM   #20
 
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Getting back to the OP, what kinds of Rasbora and Tetra were you looking on stocking?

I think Lemon Tetras are a good option for your water based on the ph (do you know the numbers for gh/kh?), but Rasboras generally prefer softer water. What about Cherry Barbs? They're bright, active fish.

If I had the option I would totally go for Cherry Barbs. They're such gorgeous, fun fish that are easy to care for.
I haven't decided yet! I know I don't want harlequin rasboras, as I already have some in my 10-gallon.

As for tetras, I really like neons. I'm also looking at blackskirts. They're gorgeous!

What do you think?

Thank you all SO much. It is so wonderful to have so many people chime in. :)

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