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Old 12-21-2006, 02:56 PM   #11
 
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Hey, back from vacation and sent you a pm.
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Old 12-22-2006, 07:57 PM   #12
 
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This is 3 semester hours of graduate course and I am therefore posting it.

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Hi, I just got back from vacation.

Input, here we go I will go in a list since I think better that way---

Your water conditions are perfectly fine as long as the juveniles you buy are tank raised in "normal" tap water. If you need a breeder, I have a GREAT one.

I would never put juveniles in with Angels. Babies need to grow confidence and it seems to take forever. The Angels will end up getting all the food and (perhaps) terrorizing your babies.

You will need to raise the temperature on your tank considerably---82 would be the absolute minimum, with 84 to 86 being the temp at which I see the most success.

As for the tank itself, I would remove as much of that bulky rock as possible and leave the driftwood and plants. Babies tend to spook easily and WILL bang themselves if the tank is too crowded. Not to mention that since you want perfect water for growth, that stuff (pretty as it is) is displacing too much water.

I have experimented, and here's the stocking level that keeps everybody the healthiest--
A minimum of 14 gallons per Discus (more like 16 each if one of them grows up to be a giant male instead of a normal sized male--which has happened to me twice. The really big males are positively evil and will bully the whole tank unless everyone has more room)
with an 80 % water change every 7 to 10 days.

Did I miss anything?

let me know what you decide to do, I am a diehard Discus fan.
I sold off some in order to keep my stocking levels decent, but still have 24 of them...
OH, one more thing. 2 Discus or 4 or more but not three. I have learned that the hard way, as they grow up, they become your average nasty cichlid and will gang up on a 3rd one .
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:32 PM   #13
 
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Thanks for the compliment!

I still think you can do it since Chris wants them. You just need to up your temp and shift some angels and a few rocks...am I tempting you?

BTW, I was deadly serious about the breeder. I have gotten something like 35 from this guy and haven't had ONE problem with his stock. He raises all his babies in tap water so that you don't need to mess with the pH or hardness of your water. It makes Discus keeping much easier than the old days.
Oh, and he's not expensive.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:20 PM   #14
 
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Originally Posted by From jones57742; To: Alexis; Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:02 am
Thanks for the time you spent as well as the wisdom in your PM.

So much for discus in my community tank but better to know now than when I had four of them in there swimming around.

Thanks Very Much
Ron Jones
This was my response to Alex.

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Old 12-27-2006, 01:37 PM   #15
 
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I still think you can do it since Chris wants them. You just need to up your temp and shift some angels and a few rocks...am I tempting you?
Yes you are!!
From my research I believed that discus were middepth shoalers (even though I once had an an angel "stuck in a rock")
The "big rock" will have to stay as Chris likes it.
How high does the temp need to be (most of my stock can easily go to 80F)?
I have 7 angels and can easily offload 3 to a retirement center (some of them are "buds" and I do not want to "break them up").

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BTW, I was deadly serious about the breeder
If he has "blue diamond" (which is what Chris likes) I will purchase from him.
This would be better for me as I really enjoy raising babies.

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Old 12-29-2006, 04:07 AM   #16
 
My 125 gallon tank, with discus, angels, clown loaches, etc. are kept at 82°F (28°C). My discus all seem to do fine. They eat when I hand feed them and even started spawning. I use regular tap water also.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:33 AM   #17
 
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My 125 gallon tank, with discus, angels, clown loaches, etc. are kept at 82°F (28°C). My discus all seem to do fine. They eat when I hand feed them and even started spawning. I use regular tap water also.
Ce:

Several questions in two categories:

Part A

1) Did you raise them from very small juvies or purchase them as 3"-4" fish?


Part B

1) What is your typical Ph?

2) What is your typical Gh?

3) What is your typical nitrate concentration?

Thanks
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:32 AM   #19
 
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CE, what kind of filtration do you have on that 125? And how often/ volume of water changes?
I always like to learn new stuff!
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