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post #21 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:18 PM Thread Starter
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just to let u know that size tank is plenty big enough for the current size of my discus. i do part water change once a week and they ar veryy HAPPY little fish. so please do not make assumptions with out asking first!
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post #22 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:28 PM
lol i've been taking care of discus since i was 12 and thats over 15 years ago.i think i know discus hehehe when they are small they will obviously be house in a small tank.but what we buy at lfs arent itty bitty sized fry but 4 inch or larger.the larger the better. the person i'm intro -ing to matt has over 60 tanks of discus and is one of the top breeders and exporter of discus in malaysia right now. i get my info first hand too and not from someones article thats been written a long time ago (not that im against his article ).i see and learn from experience and thats different from reading.i can assure you.

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post #23 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:34 PM
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That link takes me to a forum registration page. Is there anyway to read the article you were referencing without having to be a member of their forum??
Nope...just register . ..there's a section dedicated to the Professor called 'Ask the Professor'

Sorry, I don't think posting his information here is the right thing to do.

Well, Discus is waaaaaaaaaay out of my league.


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post #24 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:37 PM
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Okay .....should I listen to you or a Professor of Biochemistry who just happens to specialize in fish nutrition, genetics and by the way . . .he is a professional Discus breeder since 1988.

He is really schooled when it comes to Discus. He advises to put them in smaller tanks and grow them up instead of having a small Discus that's in a 4ft and sits in the corner, not getting the sufficient food supply. He wont eat unless he is competing with other Disci for food. So unless you have 50+ of these fish in a 4 foot, the chances of the fish living 1 month is very low. You should forget about keeping Discus if you are considering keeping just one or two.

Do you even know about Discus behavior? It's not just about size of the tank its about feeding and getting the water parameters just perfect. It's also about the overall environment and well being of the fish. You cant force him to eat. Smaller Discus are more difficult to take care of. Bigger ones are much less a worry. That's why its recommended to raise them in a smaller tank where there is less room and more competition.

He recommends that people start taking care of Blue Rams first because their requirements are exactly the same except the Rams prefer a minimum temperature of 26*C (79F) and Discus a minimum temperature of 30*C (86F). If you cant take care of rams, forget about Discus completely.

It is not advised to keep Discus in a community tank because of its high temperature requirements.

From what I've seen, his Discus are of a very high standard.

kitten_penang .. Have you ever owned a Discus or any of the other fish in the threads that you comment so readily on?

If I had not read through Prof Dirk Bellstedt's experience with Discus, I would have gone out and bought a Discus and it would have died.

There are specific requirements for Discus. From the volume of your filter, type of filter media, type of filter, flow rate,substrate, water parameters, feeding, food types, plants , tank size, number in a shoal, lighting etc.

If these variables just happen to be misread or misunderstood, the dream of raising a shoal of Discus to adult hood will be short lived.

Just a heads up to people already keeping Discus. Some of you may find it easy to raise but you may be raising an unhappy fish. Just follow the link and hear it from an experienced breeder who has more to say than what's been advised...we all can learn from this!

Dirk U. Bellstedt's advice on Discus


not me but this person. ( Our tropical fish farm has three indoor hatcheries which cover approximately 4500 sq. ft of floor space. With the capacity of 600 tanks, we produce 3,000 fish monthly which are sold to local and overseas market )

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #25 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:40 PM
is this it matt?

this is golden sunrise.
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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #26 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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omg yes, thats it lol
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post #27 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 05:01 PM
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omg yes, thats it lol

contact this guy.he has people overseas that have his stock. http://www.penangseagarden.com/

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4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
22 May 2012
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just to let u know that size tank is plenty big enough for the current size of my discus. i do part water change once a week and they ar veryy HAPPY little fish. so please do not make assumptions with out asking first!
A 24g tank is not adequate for 3 discus unless they are very small fry. And in that case, partial water changes every day would be expected.

Fish continue to grow all their lives. If they are not in adequate tanks throughout, they can develop internal deformities. You may think they are happy, but you do not know that any more than I do.

You also mention goby in with these, I do not think that is appropriate. Goby prefer cooler temperatures than discus can manage.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #29 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 05:16 PM Thread Starter
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the goby has been moved because for sum reason did not do well in my other lower temperature tanks, i dont know y but hes happier at this temp. my fish are fine n are very happy, im looking after them very well. now ur books may say diffrent but i know my fish are happy.
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post #30 of 43 Old 08-15-2010, 05:17 PM Thread Starter
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how about asking me the size of my discus before saying any thing first please,
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contact this guy.he has people overseas that have his stock. http://www.penangseagarden.com/

thank u so much i realy do appreciate it
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