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post #1 of 15 Old 01-03-2017, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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Corys and Apistogramma?

I'm setting up my tank Rio 125L (80x36x50cm), which will host:

- Neon/Cardinal Tetra
- A pair of Apistogramma Cacatuoides/Agassizii/Macmasteri
- Otocinclus

I would like to insert a group of Corydoras, but I have read and I have been warned that Apisto can be very aggressive towards Cory during reprodution, since they both stay in the lower part of the tank.

What is your opinion? Could I insert the Cory withouth too much concerns?
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post #2 of 15 Old 01-04-2017, 12:43 AM
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I guess you could add some cories. Maybe stay with the small cories like the Corydoras pygmaeus, C.habrosus or C.hastatus? a group of 10 (of a single speices) IMO would do well, as well as having numerous plants, driftwood pieces or rocks to break up the apisto line of sight and create "boundaries and borders".

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post #3 of 15 Old 01-06-2017, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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So basically little corys are better for apistos since they represent a lesser threat.

But aren't they more delicate to apisto attacks? I mean, I have often read that Corys are tough and that's why they represent a danger for apisto eggs and fry: they barely feel the bite of apisto. But little corys?
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post #4 of 15 Old 01-06-2017, 08:35 PM
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More like you can have a larger shoal and still have room for both the dwarf cichlid and cories. If you cram 10 cories (the larger varieties) then IMO, you may run into problems. But the addition of 10 dwarf/pygmy cories, will hardly make a difference. Remember your not going to keep a bare tank, having numerous pieces of wood, rocks and plants will help break up the line of sight for the cichlids and help reduce aggression at breeding time. All cories have plating, making them little armored tanks. I certainly would think that they could handle the cichlids, some of the juvi BN I have in my tank often clumsily sit on my cories, in which they hardly notice. And before when I had a betta in there, he would sometimes give them a little chase and nip - nothing too serious however - and they were fine. They hardier then you think, adding all the shoaling fish first and leaving the cichlid pair last will help all - most importantly, the cories - have time to settle into the tank.

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post #5 of 15 Old 01-07-2017, 12:52 PM
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"Aggression" is a relative term and is not inherently bad. A lot of people think that the breeding behavior and defense of young is fascinating to watch. Other people freak out the second they see one fish peck at another. Size of tank and species play a huge role in what you can expect, and your proposed setup sounds like a winner in my opinion. Apistos aren't going to kill your other fish. Are they gonna drive fish away from the eggs? You bet! And isn't that why we keep fish - to enjoy their behaviors?


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post #6 of 15 Old 01-07-2017, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
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Right now I'm inclined to insert the corys :)

Maybe 10 are a little too many? The base of the tank is 80x36.
Also, all those fish swim in the central part of the tank, which will be crowded by the tetras. Could you suggest any Cory that is still little enough, and swim on the bottom part of the tank?
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post #7 of 15 Old 01-07-2017, 04:18 PM
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Your tank is large enough for full size corys, and I don't think 10 is too many. In my opinion, 10 is the minimum for schooling fish meaning if your tank is too small to keep a group of 10, you should pick a smaller fish instead of sacrificing school size. Just my opinion.

Just don't get the emerald ones which are not corys but brochiis, which grow significantly larger.


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The pygmy cory group.
Corydoras pygmaeus, C.habrosus or C.hastatus.
C. pygmaeus spends most of their time midwater unlike most cories, however they do school with tetras so do make an interesting display IMO. (And a great way of getting out of the apisto's way, if you worried about aggression.) I've seen many tanks with a large shoal of neons and then a handful of these little guys, and honestly it looks amazing. It brings a subtle wow factor IMO. Have numerous wide leaved plants - or nice rocks where they can perch on - as they do like to sit and watch their domain.

C.habrosus, my personal fav. I have a couple in my 25g with some micro rasboras, and they honestly the cutest little things ever. They good all the spunk of the larger cory varieties, but packed in a smaller body. Would recommend to all! They spend most of their time rooting around the substrate though, but their interesting markings look amazing as they make their way through leaf litter.

C.hastatus, only saw once at a LFS. Should of got them IMO. They did spend most of their time at the bottom like the c.habrosus, so I'd imagine that they would have a similar "activity" to the c.habrosus.

^^^ Just some food for thought, these are all amazing little guys and IMO, highly underrated. images and pet stores displays don't do them justice, they take a while to settle in but once comfortable, they really colour up and very active.

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post #9 of 15 Old 01-08-2017, 04:30 PM Thread Starter
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I would rather insert corys that stay near the substrate (I don't like very much mixed schools :P And also, i feel that the middle part of the tank is already full with Tetras, which I would like to put at least 20, and Otocinclus).

I like C. habrosus but I read that they are very delicate, what do you think?. Hastatus seem tougher but I like them less.

What about Cory panda? They stay relatively small compared to the other Corys species, and should be still tough

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post #10 of 15 Old 01-08-2017, 04:33 PM
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I think pandas are a good choice, but I've never kept them.


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