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Good one!

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You'll just have to try it to see what they will eat. I have to target feed my bolivian rams with a turkey baster or the tetras will eat everything before it sinks down to them.
i have the same problem. my boli ram will not go up to the surface and my berry barbs eat everything before it gets to her.

How do you feed with a turkey baster?

Wife named boli ram Shantell, and i call her can't tell cuz it seems she can't tell when the food is available.

I have seen her several times attempt to go topside, but seems to get intimidated by the quick, darting movements of the berry barbs.

only twice have i seen her go to the surface and tentatively grab a flake. Also, on occasions when i have temporarily distracted the barbs on the other side of the tank she has grabbed a pellet, but then spits it out. Same with flakes.

I am not sure she eats at all, though i have had her a month and don't think she could have survived that long if she wasn't foraging later or eating anything at all.

any ideas?
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i have the same problem. my boli ram will not go up to the surface and my berry barbs eat everything before it gets to her.

How do you feed with a turkey baster?

Wife named boli ram Shantell, and i call her can't tell cuz it seems she can't tell when the food is available.

I have seen her several times attempt to go topside, but seems to get intimidated by the quick, darting movements of the berry barbs.

only twice have i seen her go to the surface and tentatively grab a flake. Also, on occasions when i have temporarily distracted the barbs on the other side of the tank she has grabbed a pellet, but then spits it out. Same with flakes.

I am not sure she eats at all, though i have had her a month and don't think she could have survived that long if she wasn't foraging later or eating anything at all.

any ideas?
This species rarely if ever feeds from the surface. I have had a male in my 115g for almost 4 years now (close to max lifespan) and he has never even approached the surface. Like many dwarf cichlids this species is a substrate feeder.

Sinking foods are mandatory, any of the type intended for catfish and loaches will work. And yes, they will "appear" to spit them out, but they are actually chewing off bits to eat. A fish will pick up, bite off, and spit out a pellet or tab repeatedly until it is either completely eaten or the fish wants no more. I have 30+ corys in my tank with the Bolivian, and he "steals" a tab or pellet from them, and they just wait until he spits it back down again.

The baster idea isn't the best for this fish as it is a slow eater and even squirting soggy flake food down to it would not work as well as the sinking foods. Frozen bloodworms might be OK this way, but still the other fish will be waiting. Shrimp pellets (Omega One, or other manufacturers), Nutrafin tablets, Hikari disks, etc. all work well.

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I am going to try the eyedropper thing tomorrow. I will give my otherfish food on the top, then put the eyedropper halfway down, right over the BR and just release a little bit of thawed bloodworms. When he finishes that, I'll do it again. I've found that if I release too much soaked food at once, he doesn't have time to grab it, spit it out, chew it, then spit it out again, until its gone, as described above. With one or two pieces at a time, he will take a couple of minutes to get them eaten before they fall into the substrate, where he may not find them again, or the cories get to them. Mine does go to within a few inches of the top of the water, but I've only seen him do that once. He will swim in the middle to catch some food, but I noticed he will back off if another fish grabs at it at the same time. I have read online that a lot of people don't observe their BRs eating, so they MUST be getting some from the substrate. But I do understand you worry about him getting enough. I always make sure I see mine eat at least a few bites, or I'll be stressed about it, lol.

10 gallon- 8 Harlequin Rasboras, 1 female betta.

20 gallonH - 1 Peacock Gudgeon, 2 Skunk Cories, 1 Sparkling Gourami. , one male betta, 2 nerite snails.

55 gallon - 3 Turquoise Rainbows, 1 Boesemani Rainbow, 2 Australian Rainbow, 4 Gold Dust mollies, 1 L. Dorsigera, 2 White Cloud Mountain Minnows, 1 Honey Gourami, 3 Cherry barb, 1 Koi Angelfish, 4 female betta.
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