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Old 01-22-2014, 12:02 PM   #11
 
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If they are courting, I would consider myself super lucky. they are still following each other everywhere and eating together. *fingers crossed* they are both especially the female taking on more intense coloration. The red fins and pale blue spots are much brighter. Both their tummiss are bright yellow and her stripes are super dark. She also constantly presents him with her vent by swimming at a 45 degree angle for a second or two. Dominance or courtship ritual? These two are definitely keeping me entertained! his tail is nearly completely healed too, amazing what good food and clean water can do.

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Old 01-22-2014, 01:24 PM   #12
 
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... taking on more intense coloration. The red fins and pale blue spots are much brighter. Both their tummiss are bright yellow and her stripes are super dark. She also constantly presents him with her vent by swimming at a 45 degree angle for a second or two. Dominance or courtship ritual?
Sounds like love may be in the air!!! ^__^
Glad to hear things are going so well, and fins are healing quickly. . . thanks for the update, and keep watching! 'Livvies are such amazing animals <3
Do these two have names?
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Old 01-22-2014, 02:12 PM   #13
 
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Yippee! They are Ramsey and Ramona (not really original I'm afraid)
I'll be sure to keep you posted
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:52 PM   #14
 
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Ramsey is starting to peck clean rocks and Ramona looks interested! Her vent seems to be enlarging too. It's wider and flatter...(to pass eggs?) the two of them are inseparable even at feeding time! fingers crossed...
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:31 AM   #15
 
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We have eggs!!!
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:24 AM   #16
 
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HUZZAH FOR EGGIES!!!
I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!
SUCH fantastic news!!!

Sorry I wasn't able to stop in yesterday - I guess you've figured it out by now that you absolutely got it right - the female's vent gets very swollen just before she's ready for egg laying - and GAH!! THOSE COLORS!!!

The parents should be working together to guard their clutch, and will be working around the clock to fan the eggs to keep water flow on them and prevent molding. They can be pretty aggressive with guarding their nest, but I've never seen another fish come to harm in my tank during spawning, and I have a lot of bottom dwellers. Still keep an eye out! The parent who isn't on active guard duty will often bring his/her mate food, scare off tank-mates, and dig dig dig!

At about 24ish hours after spawning, the fertilized eggs will turn a bit yellowish, watch for any that don't. I've found that the parents will eat those, but if not, they *could* mold over and become a problem. (I haven't ever had this become an issue, though - my rams were very good egg fanners!) By the end of the day tomorrow (or maybe the next morning), if all goes well, you'll be able to see little eyes in there! They should hatch out after around 3 days, as wigglers!

Sometimes it takes cichlids a few spawns to figure out what they're doing, and how to work together as a team. Unfortunately, it isn't unusual for them to eat their initial spawn. T__T
But just as often it happens that first-timers do an excellent job as parents. Fingers crossed that yours do GREAT! *GRINS*

Keep posting! I hope everything works out perfectly for little Ramona and Ramsey, and their first brood!
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:40 AM   #17
 
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Ramsey and Ramona have been very attentive parents so far all their eggs are yellowish and they have been cleaning/ digging around the tank too. Both are eating and they take turns nicely. Also the other fish are keeping their distance so no problems there. Cannot wait to see the little eyes!
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Old 01-26-2014, 08:35 AM   #18
 
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HUZZAH!!! *fingers crossed* for wigglers! ^__^
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:44 PM   #19
 
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So I'm a little confused... I will freely admit that I haven't been able to keep a super close eye on the tank as I've been very busy the past 2 days. The eggs hatched Monday night but I haven't noticed any wigglers at all. The parents are still hanging out together BT do not appear to be guarding a particular area and their intense yellow breeding colors have dimmed too. Does this mean that the wigglers were eaten by their parents or other fish or are the parents just not as attentive at this stage? I'm doing my weekly water change now but am not going to gravel vac just in case...black gravel makes finding babies tough!
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:42 AM   #20
 
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Awww, yeah. . . they probably didn't make it. :(
I've gotten wigglers, and even a *few* free-swimmers - but never more in a community tank.
I have a black sand substrate - you'd definitely see them - mom and dad would be guarding a nursery pit full of them if they were in there!

No worries, though - they did it once, they'll probably do it again! And again! And again! About every 4-6 weeks, if you're lucky! :) Hopefully things will go better next time around - sounds like they were off to a good start as parents! ^__^
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