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Bolivian Ram Question
Old 12-31-2010, 12:02 AM   #1
 
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Bolivian Ram Question

Hey all, I am setting up a 20 gal tank that will have 5-6 panda Corys in it. I wanted to get something that will stand out and was thinking getting a Bolivian Ram. I didn't see anything in the profile that says they need to be in schools, so I wanted to check here if they did. I don't think I will have the room for another 4-5 fish on top of the corys.

Will 1 or 2 BRs be ok with this setup? I am planning on having a lot of plants in this tank which I read elsewhere that they really like too. Any help would be awesome!
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Old 12-31-2010, 01:15 AM   #2
 
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Hey all, I am setting up a 20 gal tank that will have 5-6 panda Corys in it. I wanted to get something that will stand out and was thinking getting a Bolivian Ram. I didn't see anything in the profile that says they need to be in schools, so I wanted to check here if they did. I don't think I will have the room for another 4-5 fish on top of the corys.

Will 1 or 2 BRs be ok with this setup? I am planning on having a lot of plants in this tank which I read elsewhere that they really like too. Any help would be awesome!
Tank size is a bit tight for two bolivian Rams.
In the event you were to end up with two males,,then territorial disputes would be expected and one fish will be the loser.
If you were to end up with a male/female and spawning took place ,the cory's would end up on the receiving end of punishment when they came close to the nest.
Cory's aren't very smart ,and seem to be drawn to areas where eggs are present despite repeated attacks from parent's.I believe the eggs of fishes produce a scent that draws the cory's as well as other catfish to nesting areas but I have no scientific proof, just observations I have made.
Bolivian Rams are very hard to sex with any degree of accuracy and most folks give each Ram 30 plus gallons, which helps keep aggression levels somewhat manageable providing there is LOT"S of caves ,wood,plants,etc.
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Old 12-31-2010, 01:18 AM   #3
 
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Thanks a lot, so I guess back to the main question, are they ok to keep singlely? (the fish profile here said 20 gal for one of them) thats why I was asking.
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Old 12-31-2010, 01:41 AM   #4
 
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Thanks a lot, so I guess back to the main question, are they ok to keep singlely? (the fish profile here said 20 gal for one of them) thats why I was asking.
Yes,One will be fine on it's own and would have no reason to pay cory's any mind.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:27 AM   #5
 
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Agree on all of the above. One Bolivian Ram will do fine in your tank abs can live solely by themselves. Any more and you're asking for trouble with your tank size. I love Bolivian's. Good luck with him!
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:05 PM   #6
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I have 2 in a 20 long and the only reason it works I think is because its a male female combo, if I had got two males I'm almost sure one would be dead by now. Remember these rams will stay towards the bottom of the tank so longer not higher tanks are best.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:56 AM   #7
 
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Glad to hear that! Now all I have to do is find one :/ My prefered LFS doesn't get them in very often and says he has a hard time ordering them. Anyone order online and have a preferred place to do so from? I still have another week or two before I can add fish, and I plan on adding the panda corys first so we are looking at maybe 3-5 weeks until I will be ready to add the ram. Might wait longer due to temperature outside if I am ordering online.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:20 AM   #8
 
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Cories are very sensitive to new tank setups. I would recommend adding cories as your last fish. At least a month after your tank is fully established.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:24 AM   #9
 
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Corrys are the only fish in this tank besides the ram which will most likely take awhile to get a hold of here. The tank will have been set up (without fish) for a month before they corys are introduced. I also used a filter from an established tank. Do you think this will still be a problem? The plan was to add 3 corys intiailly, watch water for about a week then add 2-3 more, and then sometime after add the ram (which means whenever I can actually get one)
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Using a filter from an established tank won't matter if you didn't have anything to keep the bacteria alive. The bacteria from the established filter is killed off within 24 hours if it doesn't have bacteria to feed off of (ammonia from fish waste). It is useless at this point. What you want to do is put the media back on the established tank until you get your first fish. Then add the media back onto the new tank so it had a source of bacteria to live off of. Does this make sense?
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