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Another stereotypical "ID" thread!
Old 12-08-2011, 12:02 AM   #1
 
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Another stereotypical "ID" thread!

Bought 2 new pseudos from an "assorted pseudos" tank at my LFS. I would love to know what they are!

This guy I am 99% sure is a male Bumbleblee Cichlid, but you can never be sure:



But this one I'm not sure. I thought for a moment he was a submissive Hongi that got mixed up in the wrong tank, but once I got him under my lights and noticed no blue and no egg spots, I thought he was a SHE, but I still have no idea what she/he is....? He looks a little brown, that's just my camera compensating in the ambient light. S/He's black and silver.




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Old 12-08-2011, 01:01 AM   #2
 
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Looks like a bumble bee to me too - i was never anygood at determining male or female in the cichlid world xD

Was that dish for a water change?
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:03 AM   #3
 
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I THOUGHT he was a bumblebee! Now just to see what my stripey silver beauty is!
No, I ran out of rocks to make caves out of, and it makes an entrance. It also gives my SAEs and Clown Pleco something to clean, lol.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:07 AM   #4
 
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I THOUGHT he was a bumblebee! Now just to see what my stripey silver beauty is!
No, I ran out of rocks to make caves out of, and it makes an entrance. It also gives my SAEs and Clown Pleco something to clean, lol.
PVC pipe! I made a pipe dream for my loaches out of pvc pipes. They make wonderful caves but can be a bit ugly but I love the way it looks

I bough 9ft of 4inch pvc pipe for 10 bucks.

My friend has a bumblebee cichlid and it looks exactly the same as yours so thats where ill place my money lol

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Old 12-08-2011, 01:18 AM   #5
 
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I do find PVC ugly, hence the coconut half. I just need to either stop buying fish, or a bigger tank for more rocks. Lol.

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Old 12-08-2011, 06:56 AM   #6
 
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First fish does look to be a bumblebee. Looks too small too sex though. Males will turn black when they mature so look out for that. Or you could vent but it looks too small to be vented I would just wait a bit. The second one... well to me it looks to be a very stressed socolofi but if you got it from any sort of assorted tank there is a high chance it is a hybrid.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:41 PM   #7
 
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They have a breeder that doesn't hybridize; they do however box the generics in one box and doesn't label them, so my LFS relies on the manager of aquatics to ID the fish and when she isn't sure or they are the same price, she lists the breeds on the tank and I didn't ask because he was gorgeous.

He has never colored to blue, he has consistently been black stripes and grey, and he lacks the vividness of the black bar on the frontal bottom "show" fin that the Socolofi has. His eyes are colored differently, and the mouth is angled a little different. He is also only slightly smaller than my dominant male Hongi, and he hasn't bothered the new guy, none of them has. In fact, he's chased the females a little, but only about an inch away from himself. Thing is, I know he isn't a convict or a bumble, so I don't know if he's just coloring down to be submissive, but my Buzz (hongi male) isn't being dominant. Rather the contrary....

Buzz is more interested in the 2 female Hongis (Baby-Girl and Little One) and chasing my SAEs (Mom and Dad lol) away from whatever they are cleaning.

He is a mystery that's for sure. I will attempt to get better photos if no one can ID him (her?) from those.
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:03 PM   #8
 
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Okay, update. I am now totally sure he is a he, because I have seen him coloring up and vibrating for the females just like my dominant male Hongi does, so that says that he is a submissive male. But because he's doing that, it suggests that he is a mouth brooder, meaning he is in fact an mbuna. I also managed to get some photos of him colored up to about 75%. He's only gone full color when he can't see my Hongi, and it involved a female. Here are some better photos of him all colored up:









My phone doesn't like the movement, lol sorry. I don't know if you can tell, but there are some of his stripes that are coming upwards from his stomach...Does that help?
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:53 AM   #9
 
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He looks like an elongatus. Not sure which variant but the long slender shape with the bars and yellow color on the fins suggest elongatus.
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