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Advice on setting up an African cichlid tank
Old 08-05-2011, 07:18 AM   #21
 
I've been wondering, how does a rift tank compare to a 'brackish' tank? Fr example I am wondering if scats/monos and brackish catfish would survive in there. I know bristlenose can live quite happily in a rift tank so I'm just kinda confused
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:39 AM   #22
 
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I've been wondering, how does a rift tank compare to a 'brackish' tank? Fr example I am wondering if scats/monos and brackish catfish would survive in there. I know bristlenose can live quite happily in a rift tank so I'm just kinda confused
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Rift lake isn't a type of water it is just the type of lake it happens to be. Brackish water has a certain amount of salt like from the ocean in it. The rift lakes are purely fresh water systems with no salt in it. You cannot keep africans in brackish water they need fresh water. Monos need brackish water. You defiantly should not mix them. Not sure what you mean by the plecos. They need freshwater not brackish water.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:48 AM   #23
 
Exactly what I thought when I just found out about them. There are three large lakes formed by a rift. tangynika,victoria,moliwe. They have hard water and high pH. No salt
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:24 PM   #24
 
Oh wow....so what's all this 'cichlid salts' I'm meant to be adding to the tank...just minerals? Man do I feel stupid :/
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:07 PM   #25
 
I've never heard of "cichlid salt". Sounds like a scam product.

Some people use Aquarium salt to help with diseases and parasites. Many will keep salt in the tank all the time as a preventative measure. I dont agree with this as I could see the bacteria/parasites adapting and becoming immune to it.
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:07 PM   #26
 
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Aquarium salt as mentioned does not need to be added to the aquarium on any kind of regular basis. It should only be used when dealing with illness or injury.etc. Those "cichlid salts" are either buffers to help raise pH and GH or they are minerals to stimulate the lake. The latter is probably a scam.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:24 PM   #27
 
It's an API product I saw at the lfs. There was cichlid salt and cichlid buffer. I think it was just the minerals to 'recreate the lake'. I just saw the word salt and immediately thought salt like sea salt. Even though no salinity was ever mentioned. Doofus!
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:42 AM   #28
 
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You should all read my article on hardness and pH in the freshwater aquarium. Briefly, water is "hard" due to the level of dissolved mineral salts in the water. "Salt" as we use it commonly refers to sodium that you use in cooking, and related saltwater as in the ocean is this type of salt. But calcium and magnesium salts along with some other mineral salts make water hard according to the level of mineral salts in the water.

The rift lake salts are mineral salts. They will work for rift lake cidhlids if you have soft water, but there are less expensive ways to harden water. Dolomite is the easiest as it is calcium and magnesium, the two prime minerals for hard water.

"Epsom salts" is strictly speaking Magnesium sulfate, which is simply a mix of magnesium and sulphur salts. I add this to my tanks to give me a tad of mineral, plus it is excellent plant food. But you have to be careful, too much causes other problems like iron deficiency. This is still strictly freshwater, no sodium is being added.

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Old 08-12-2011, 06:11 AM   #29
 
Just an update, the tank has been about 1/4 full for a week now with substrate and rocks in, I've just been stirring up the sand so the 'dust' could filter out. It's all pretty much one now which is great! Going to start to cycle in the next few days. Am thinking of doing a fishless cycle using prawns/food coz I can't seem to find any ammonia.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:08 PM   #30
 
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