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Old 03-12-2009, 07:13 PM   #1
 
55g Cichlid Tank

Hey guys.

I recently purchased a 55 gallon and I believe that my cycle has completed. That being said I think I have decided to go with a cichlid tank, as I find them all to be very attractive fish.

I was talking with a local petstore owner and I believe that I am going to follow his advice unless anyone on here thinks that it isn't a good idea. I most likely am going to go with 2 oscars, probably long finned. They are gorgeous oscars!

After the Oscars grow to at least 1/2 of their full adult size, I'm going to add a single Jack Dempsey, just to see how they do.

After the Oscars are full grown and the Jack Demspy is approximately 3/4 in size, I'm going to add 3-4 convicts.

Now, for my questions!

1.) Slight overstock? Still have room? Perfect fit? Largely Overstocked? (Keep in mind theres NO fish in it---yet.)

2.) Are long finned oscars hard to get? I know that they can be slightly harder to care for because of thier fins being long and attractive for other cichlids to attack... If they are hard to get, anyone know where I should begin to look?

3.) I have two Marineland Bio-Wheel Filters (350's) for my 55 gallon. I know this is pretty much an overkill, however is it too much?
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:02 PM   #2
 
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Hello There!

First and formost if you put all those fish in a 55 you are gonna be way overstocked........IMO either one oscar or the Jack Dempsey......The only way you could keeep all those fish together is if you plan on purchasing something in the line of a 120 gallon tank in about a year to transfer them to........Oscars grow remarkably fast, probably be around 5 to 6 inches in the first year and they are a very messy fish, considering they will eat anything........The one plus you have on your side with the 55 is that you have 2 quality filters to use on it.....IMO, you can never overfilter a tank..........The long-finned oscars in my area are hard to find........Maybe try Aqua-bid........I see your in PA........If your close to Lancaster, you need to make a trip to "That Fish Place".........Best fish shop in the state, hands down......Good Luck with the tank!
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:09 AM   #3
 
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I agree, One oscar or one jack dempsey in 55gal. Maybe a smaller variety of synodontis (catfish). But not those that grow to a foot long or better. Google info on species of synodontis.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:17 AM   #4
 
There is no such thing as overfiltration and to be honest with you the amount you have now is probably just enough. The bigger you get the more you should add--I am running 300 gph worth of filtration on my 26 gallon and wish I had more.


And if you want more fish, avoid the oscars. They are great fish but limit what you can put in a tank. Consider your desires as far as number and size and color go and go from there
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:40 PM   #5
 
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...3.) I have two Marineland Bio-Wheel Filters (350's) for my 55 gallon. I know this is pretty much an overkill, however is it too much?
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There is no such thing as overfiltration and to be honest with you the amount you have now is probably just enough. The bigger you get the more you should add--I am running 300 gph worth of filtration on my 26 gallon and wish I had more.


And if you want more fish, avoid the oscars. They are great fish but limit what you can put in a tank. Consider your desires as far as number and size and color go and go from there
Just enough? How is 700 GPH just enough for a 55 gallon? I have two Penguin 350s.

700/55 =12.72 cycles per hour.

300/26= 11.53 cycles per hour.

Which means my filters are doing over one more full cycle per hour than yours. That's over 24 more per day. I'm not following how you can say that mine is just enough.

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Old 03-13-2009, 03:56 PM   #6
 
i was speaking relatively--the bigger you get the exponentially more you should add..if that makes sense. I am teetering on the edge of not enough for my mbuna tank. not only are they very dirty--they truly flourish in crystal clear water.


I wasn't saying add more, just mentioning that you should be fine with what you have.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:38 PM   #7
 
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In my opinion, a 55 is too small for an Oscar. If it gets near a foot long, then how will it turn around?

Shoot for something in the 8 to 10" range if you must go for a large Cichlid. And you're going to be looking at a single specimen tank if you go with a Jack.

Did I have a 55 gallon Cichlid tank - Actually, I do, breeding pair of Festivums, but that's not what you mean. Did I have Another 55 gallon tank for Cichlids, I think I would start with a half dozen young Firemouths and go from there.
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:06 AM   #8
 
sorry but i think that you would be pretty overstocked if you went with all of those fish long term. that "1 gallon per inch of fish" rule doesn't apply to big fish. (especially SA cichlids) here are your choices out if those options:

1 oscar (veiltails are PRETTY hard to find)
possibly a pair of JD if you take really good care of water quality
even more than 4 convicts if you want
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:44 PM   #9
 
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sorry but i think that you would be pretty overstocked if you went with all of those fish long term. that "1 gallon per inch of fish" rule doesn't apply to big fish. (especially SA cichlids) here are your choices out if those options:

1 oscar (veiltails are PRETTY hard to find)
possibly a pair of JD if you take really good care of water quality
even more than 4 convicts if you want
If you have more than one convict, you run the risk of having a pair, which will, in almost every possible aquarium, lead to far more convicts than you want.
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:55 PM   #10
 
As stated above, more than one convict could result in a pair (unless you are very careful and make sure you get all males/females. However, the breeding could be a good thing depending on the other fish you have; basically, free food. We have a pair of convicts and the sole reason we have them is for live food for our parachromis managuense.

Also, your LFS owner sounds like he is just trying to make some money and not think about what is good for your tank. If he truly suggested all that you listed as possibilities for your tank and that everything could go in and live a nice long happy life, I think I would be looking for another LFS personally. Even our Petsmart staff is smarter than that :(
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