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post #1 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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40 gallon for american cichlids

I currently have a amazon tank and i am just wondering what type of american cichlid i might be able to put in it when i am finished with this tank?

I love oscars but i know they would grow too fast.

What might do well i am fine with just one fish as long as he or she is happy by his/her self.

What do you think?
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post #2 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 05:22 PM
With a 40g your options are convicts, firemouths, or SA dwarves. Any other SA/CA species will get too big.
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post #3 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 06:42 PM Thread Starter
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I have had convicts before and i am looking to try something else put i will look up firemouths and to look up SA dwarves i need a full name
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post #4 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 07:37 PM
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Red Devils are fun but aggressive. How about Angelfish?

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post #5 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 08:05 PM
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I have had convicts before and i am looking to try something else put i will look up firemouths and to look up SA dwarves i need a full name
You can always google "dwarf cichilds"

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post #6 of 11 Old 02-25-2009, 08:07 PM
A 40g is too small for angels and WAY too small for a red devil.

I you want to look up some dwarfs, the usual suspects are rams (german blue or bolivian), apistos, and kribensis. You can easily do a pair of any of these and some tankmates.
Look them up individually to check their needs as gat as water parameters, temp, diet, and possible tankmates.
Also, dwarf cichlids do well in planted tanks unlike heir larger cousins, allowing you even more options in the tank.
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post #7 of 11 Old 02-26-2009, 11:28 AM
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Keyholes would work also and are fairly peaceful for cichlids.

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post #8 of 11 Old 02-26-2009, 11:49 AM
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+one for keyhole cichlids, rainbow cichlids, blue acara might also work/ I realize some of these may not interest you but for size of tank and relatively non aggressiveness these could work.

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post #9 of 11 Old 02-27-2009, 11:09 AM
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Give me one good reason 40 gallons isn't enough space for angels???? The idea of an in home aquarium is not to replicate a lake, obviously. I've seen angel thrive and live long lives in smaller tanks. The deeper the 40 gallon tank the better, but any 40 gal is perfectly adequate. A seasoned cichlid owner knows that the size of each fish has really nothing to do with how many you can put in one tank. It has more to do with territory and aggression. All cichlids are territorial, some only slightly, others highly aggressive. The biggest concern with lagre cichlids is swiming room. Many grow to be 8-12 in or more, and would have a difficult time menuvering around in the tank. My advice, stay with small to mid-sized cichlids of similar aagression. Don't put weaker more docile species with hard core agressive fish, and make sure their is structure in the tank to allow your tankmates to ignore one another better. Fish have short memory, so if they see a threat one second, thier on it, but if they don't see the same threat the next second, they'll quikley forget and move on. eventually they may or may not choose to cooexist. Not every fish is exactly the same. I recommend: 1 male firemouth, and 1 female firemouth. Breeding pairs are an awesome choice for a tank you size...you don't have to put anything else with them. Watching the fish interact and move through the breeding cycle is amazing. Of course you'll get fry, but Fish store like freebies, some even pay for them.

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post #10 of 11 Old 02-27-2009, 01:59 PM
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the only angels that are to big for a 40 gallon is salt water angels
even dr. foster&smith say 30 gallons is a minimum http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...71&pcatid=1571 and they are usually on the high side
I would do ether Bolivian or German blue rams
the bolivians are easier to care for but rams look a ton cooler

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