Originally Posted by Angel079
When I read up on them I found 76-80F and 73-80 for the Emporer....and for sake of the Cory Cats I settled for the lower 77F to not fry any one and not have any one be cold neither
The simple reason I didn't QT them; the Cardinals where alone anyway so alone in tank A or B wouldn't have made a diff. When I added the other Rummy's & Emporer again there was 4 Rummy in the tank and I had to choose to QT them in the spare tank or the stock for the 55g I got so I chosen the stock for the 55g to be QTed.... I see QT making sense as far as not making other fish sick; but that wouldn't prevent sudden unexplainable death of the not to be found Rummy. And the new ick break out after all the time now I'd have not QTed them for 3 months anyway....
I drip acclimate all of them over 3-3.5 hrs time - That should have been sufficient (I thought anyway)?!
All the DW I have is from my old tank (I ketp it all when I had to give the old tanks up) and I can hardly believe that after yrs in my tanks all the sudden it would give off "bad stuff"; if it was brand new yea...but that stuff is OLD.
There's no CAE in any of the tanks (sorry will cross check the log and update).
The Tank is 7 and KH 2 the tap is 6.8 and 1 and when I do the w/c (unless removing meds etc) I do about 30% at a time.
1077 you said: I would not use anything in aquariums that was not absolutely needed and as I have mentioned in past, I would disenfect all tools,buckets,sponges,etc that I may have used or am using while treating sick fish.
What jumped out at you being unsafe in my tanks? I'm overlooking it I guess, but I donno really what you're ref too?
They each have their own nets. Each have their own sponges for the glass. Buckets used I have buckets where I only vacuum the water into and then a OTHER set of buckets with which I refill (since I now REALLY do not feel safe using the Python there). And the only thing I use the same on all tanks is the gravel vac with gets washed hotttt (like hurting my hands hot hot) between use of tank A and B. What else could I do?
Climate of this thread is becoming a bit uncomfortable for my taste , so I shall wish you luck and refrain from trying to offer any more ideas that seem to irritate you. Perhaps it is me. In any event,, I have little interest in emotional aspects of the hobby and try to train my efforts on helping others discover what many, much more expierienced than myself ,,consider helpful with regards to proper care of fishes.
For the benefit (or not) of others,,
Quarantine tanks will go a long ways in preventing pathogens unknown from being transported to display tanks. Fish don't always appear sick, covered in ich,etc to harbor parasites or other pathogens. The fact that fish are alone in any tank does not mean they are not ill. In fact ,it is quite possible that many fish we purchase are indeed under considerable stress due to being caught,placed in bags,transported to fish stores ,and then acclimated to waters different from the bags of water they were shipped in. They are then caught once again when we purchase them,placed in bags,transported to our homes, and then once again they are subjected to acclimation to possibly different waters (ie) pH,temp.
Fish under stress do not always become Ill overnight. Medications will not work overnight .
Quarantine tanks also make the use of medications easier and cheaper. Smaller body of water,less meds are needed and water changes are easier.
Temperatures listed for many species of fish along with pH values are often taken from books where many years ago,, fish were wild caught for the aquarium trade. Some species of fish ,are still wild caught. Temps could reflect temps that are found at different times of day, different seasons,and or prefered spawning temperatures in areas where these fish were once collected and some still are.When keeping most species ,it is in my view , a good idea to aim for temp and ph values that fall somewhere in the middle of those values rather than upper or lower extremes.
Can only speak for myself but I am not inclined to assume anything that a particular hobbyist may or may not be doing or not doing. I don't assume for instance that water parameters are fine,good,normal.ok.etc,etc.I can only suggest what I feel would be beneficial to most species of fish.
I don't assume what chemicals,potions,powders,ferts,pH altering substrates or decor might be in use in any ones aquarium. I only suggest that if it ain't needed I don't use it.
I don't assume that foods that are offered are suitable for fishes being kept and that foods are fresh. I merely suggest that fresh foods, along with variety ,and refraining from foods such as store bought feeders will benefit the fish.
I accept the fact that fish sometimes die for no apparent reason or fault of the hobbyist. I merely try to offer suggestions that might help avoid stress to the fish which in turn,often results in weakened immune sytem,and possibly sick fish as a result.
I do not know everything. You will find no posts from me indicating such. I lose fishes on occasion. Though I generally don't use medications and prefer to maintain water quality and treat sick fish as last resort,, I have used medications over the twenty some years I have been in the hobby.
Due to the fact that many pathogens,bacterial infections or other unknown problems share similar symptoms,, and not being an expert,,, I have found that most treatments have 50/50 chance of success. When I DO medicate, I do so in quarantine tank and I follow the directions. More is not better.
I treat for the duration recommended,I don't mix medications.and I am aware that medications for some fishes are harmful to others and that some medications ,will affect negatively the biological filter(good bacteria) and I monitor the water during medications for that reason. I also as stated before,, disenfect all tools, sponges,scrapers,nets,buckets,syphons,etc after each use cause I can't afford different tools for each tank.
Lastly.. as already mentioned, I accept the fact that sometimes despite our best efforts,fish die. Is as it always has been in the wild as well as in our aquariums.
For those reading this if you are so inclined, Do not expect others to assume anything. It is why we ask for as much information with regards to your or my aquarium as you can provide in the interest of perhaps offering some help. The more information,,, The better.