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post #1 of 23 Old 07-24-2010, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
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Hi everyone. my brother is wanting to keep Red Bellied or Black Piranhas
I Just Want To Know Is This A Wise Move?
Hes 20 Years Old But Hasnt Had Any Experience With Any Tropical Fish.
All He Has Ever had was a goldfish when he was younger.

Any piranha info would be great
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post #2 of 23 Old 07-25-2010, 12:25 AM
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They need a very large aquarium. There are two genera containing several species of fish commonly considered "piranha," the usual one available in stores (unfortunately) is Pygocentrus nattereri which attains 12 inches. Being a shoaling fish, it shouod be kept in a group, which would mean a 4-foot tank for six young fish (of the size normally seen in stores) but 6 feet or larger would very soon be needed in order for the fish to properly develop and grow healthily. This is not a fish for the home aquarium unless it can be given the space it deserves and properly cared for. Their behaviour is rather "embellished" usually, but they are an aggressive fish nonetheless.

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post #3 of 23 Old 07-25-2010, 11:14 AM
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Not to mention that piranhas have a tendency to just hover in place, suspended, opening and closing their mouths. Pretty boring fish, IMHO.

If you don't stand up for something you'll fall for anything...
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post #4 of 23 Old 07-25-2010, 11:25 AM
i bet his brother wants to look cool and throw a baby pinky in and go.oh look the horror 0.0
am i right??? no offence i'm just joking.

Btw this fish isn't a beginer fish and you'll have to make sure pets in the house or kids don't stick anything into the tank ( meaning get a cover ) and 6 feet aquarium plus cover comes up to a lot of cash not to mention the filter system and gadgets to clean the tank as no hands should be in there scrubbing the walls unless you want to lose any fingers.so think twice before getting them.

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otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
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post #5 of 23 Old 07-25-2010, 12:05 PM Thread Starter
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i bet his brother wants to look cool and throw a baby pinky in and go.oh look the horror 0.0
am i right??? no offence i'm just joking.

Btw this fish isn't a beginer fish and you'll have to make sure pets in the house or kids don't stick anything into the tank ( meaning get a cover ) and 6 feet aquarium plus cover comes up to a lot of cash not to mention the filter system and gadgets to clean the tank as no hands should be in there scrubbing the walls unless you want to lose any fingers.so think twice before getting them.

I Am Female lol
And Also I Have Tried Telling My Brother All This And That Its Not A Good Idea To Start With But He Just Wont Listen So I Suppose Hes Gonna Have To Learn The Hard Way
Thnks Everyone :)
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post #6 of 23 Old 07-26-2010, 05:23 AM
do tell us if he losses a finger lol JK you tried your best to advice him.be proud you've done your part =) sorry bout the gender mix up

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
22 May 2012
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post #7 of 23 Old 07-26-2010, 05:59 AM Thread Starter
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do tell us if he losses a finger lol JK you tried your best to advice him.be proud you've done your part =) sorry bout the gender mix up
Lol Its Fine But Trust Me If He Gets Bitten You Guys WIll Be First To Know lol
Hell Mend Him lol
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post #8 of 23 Old 07-26-2010, 07:11 AM
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5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
22 May 2012
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post #9 of 23 Old 08-30-2010, 04:21 PM
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It's very rare for anyone to get bitten by captive Piranhas, the only times it really happens is when they're being transported to other aquaria or feel threatened.

Piranhas are not begginer's fish but they're not particularly difficult to keep either, they just require ALOT of space and filtration. They also tend to be quite boring as has been said and the only time they're 'exciting' is when they're being fed. However, I love piranhas and keep a Spotted Piranha myself which I love but is very boring and timid most of the time.

The Black Piranha is a solitary Fish and cannot be kept with ANY other Fish, they get huge reaching nearly two feet in length so will need a massive tank...Awesome Fish though and they are very popular with Piranha keepers and are normally considered the ultimate Piranha.

Red Bellies are from a different genus (pygocentrus) and are shoalers so need a large tank because of that.

Don't understimate the level of filtration, water changes and related costs that come with large, carniverous Fish. You don't need any special knowledge, you just need deep pockets to set the tank up, space and a liking for doing water changes.

There are other species that are less hard work from the Serrasalmus genus, I would recommend S. Compressus or S.Marginatus if you're limited for space but will still need a 150 litre+ tank.
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post #10 of 23 Old 08-30-2010, 04:43 PM
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Keep in mind that in some places piranhas are illegal to keep.



If you like fish you can hand feed... piranhas aren't for you.

RIP fire eel
why did you think it was a good idea to keep going over the top of the tank
when you realized you couldn't breathe outside water?
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