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This is a discussion on piranas within the Characins forums, part of the Freshwater and Tropical Fish category; --> Originally Posted by joeshmoe sry i didnt see you said a "small" tank That's ok, Joe. No need to apologize.:D...

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Old 10-05-2006, 06:42 PM   #11
 
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sry i didnt see you said a "small" tank
That's ok, Joe. No need to apologize.:D
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:35 PM   #12
 
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A small tank would require almost overfiltration which is not often advisable .
y ? i have 75 gallon filter ging in my 55
Joe, in such a small tank, if you are the fish, would you want to be carried away by currents while you are alive? Of course, you'd reply no.
If Joe was a piranha, he would. Seeing as how piranhas love the currents, and a strong power head is greatly appreciated.

Filtration is the key factor in piranha survival. Without it, you have nothing. Bio Wheels are the cheapest, most cost efficient way to go. Water parameters will clash otherwise, with the high bio load piranha waste produces.

www.opefe.com < that should answer any more questions anyone might have about piranhas.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:30 PM   #13
 
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lol what are you guys fighting over? just go with the 1 inch per gallon rule and you will be fine.

i also heard they produce alot of waste, heh prob no more than my swordtails :/
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:32 PM   #14
 
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O ya i forgot, Yes you can buy Large piranha's but i dont no if they have a "Big Als" were you live :P
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:19 PM   #15
 
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O ya i forgot, Yes you can buy Large piranha's but i dont no if they have a "Big Als" were you live :P
Not unless you have a tank of more than 200 gallons. Piranhas are large waste producers. Let alone what they eat.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:36 AM   #16
 
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O ya i forgot, Yes you can buy Large piranha's but i dont no if they have a "Big Als" were you live :P
Not unless you have a tank of more than 200 gallons. Piranhas are large waste producers. Let alone what they eat.
ya i stated that :) i was right i guess my research was good.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:36 AM   #17
 
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Oops wrong quote you have to look at my other post to see that.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:32 AM   #18
 
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I will have to side with Blue on this one. His information is accurate.

There are other species of piranah, and yes, some are more aggressive, but to eat a cow you would need many fish. The stomach on a piranah can only hold so much at a time, and there is a lot of waste involved, as was also pointed out.

If you take a dinner plate and hold it up to a 15 gallon tank, or even a 40 gallon tank, you'll get a good idea of how big most species of piranah will get. In the case of wanting up to 6 of them, hold up 6 plates, and common sense would tell you that it won't work. The fish need room to swim and turn around comfortably, which, in a small tank, won't be possible once the get too big. The same problem is true for 55 gallon tanks, they are too narrow, and the fish can't turn around properly once they get larger.
It would be very helpful to know your tank size, either number of gallons or dimensions.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:13 AM   #19
 
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lol what are you guys fighting over? just go with the 1 inch per gallon rule and you will be fine.
Sure... if you want to stunt their growth. It dont work like that with piranhas. They will will be runts. 15-20 gallons minumum per fish
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:58 PM   #20
 
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The thing that stunts the growth is a high nitrate level over a period of time. With that said, it also will slowly poison the fish and cause a lot of internal damage if not cleaned up. A healthy fish in good water quality will grow to its full potiential size.
Putting a piranah in a 10 - 15 gallon tank will only accomplish one thing overall... it will kill it!

I have told this story in other threads here on ff, but I will tell it one more time to get the idea across.
A few yrs ago, while still working at the store, a guy came in with a 10 inch jack dempsey. This was the prettiest dempsey I had ever seen, bright colors, etc... but the spine was "kinked" severely. We put the fish into a 40 breeder quarantine tank, and it died within about a wk.
The customer told us how he'd raised it in a 10 gallon tank, doing 100% water changes every day and feeding good foods twice/day. Now, picture a 10 inch dempsey in a 10 gallon tank, and you'll understand why the spine was kinked. By the time the guy brought it to us, it could not swim, nor could it hold istelf upright in the tank, because of the deformities in the spine which were due to lack of space.
The fish was almost the same size as the tank. This was one of the saddest things I've ever seen.

In the case of a piranah, when full grown, it would be too tall for a 10 gallon tank... and the same problem would be an issue as with the dempsey. So, could you raise a piranah in a 10 gallon? NO. Plain and simple... NO. The average life span of a dempsey is about 50+ yrs... the average life span of a piranah is about 40+. The dempsey was about 2 yrs old when it died... what a waste. Piranah tend to grow faster than even the dempseys, so you're talking about maybe an 8 month - 1 yr lifespan for a fish that should live 40+.

How else to say this? JUST DON'T!
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