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Old 08-11-2009, 09:34 PM   #11
 
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Great looking tank. Thanks again.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:16 AM   #12
 
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We called the aquarium place in the city,they ordered my fish. Dunno which one they will get. Hopefully golden or dwarf (sorry i forget the latin names lol). They will either get them friday or monday,so we shall see.

next question,is a 5.5 gallon okay for quarantine? and how long should i q-tine for? thanks for everything.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:37 AM   #13
 
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We called the aquarium place in the city,they ordered my fish. Dunno which one they will get. Hopefully golden or dwarf (sorry i forget the latin names lol). They will either get them friday or monday,so we shall see.

next question,is a 5.5 gallon okay for quarantine? and how long should i q-tine for? thanks for everything.
Most quarantine for a week, some two weeks to be safe. Use water from the main tank they will eventually go in to avoid more stress with different water. And obviously the quarantine tank has to be fully cycled first; I would simply dose the qt with "Stability" when I floated the bag. Slowly mix the water (longer if there is significant difference in pH or hardness)...you may know all this, just to be safe though.

If the golden pencilfish it will almost certainly be Nannostomus beckfordi. If dwarf, then Nannostomus marginatus, unless it is the newer red coral species that is identical to N. marginatus except brighter and more prevalent red which makes it N. mortenthaleri. Same process for whichever, although beckfordi are hardier fish. I used them to cycle my 90g last time (using Stability of course, probably didn't matter which fish with that stuff).

Another suggestion, leave them in the store for a few days before you buy them. This allows them to recover from the ordeal of the journey, and usually with pencils several may not survive more than a day or two, so better they die in the store than in your tank. If any doubt they may sell out, ask them to save some for you, you'll be in on.. or something. This isn't so critical with beckfordi, again because thy are more resilient.

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Old 08-12-2009, 02:02 PM   #14
 
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Hmm okay. Ill let ya know what kind they get in and I will go from there. Also,how much do these lil guys run? I think my corys were about 5 bucks.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:10 PM   #15
 
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Hmm okay. Ill let ya know what kind they get in and I will go from there. Also,how much do these lil guys run? I think my corys were about 5 bucks.
I've no idea on prices in the US. FishinPole may help you on this, he knows those stores.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:27 PM   #16
 
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Ah thats right Canada. My bad lol. Okay. :)
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:10 PM   #17
 
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Oh,cool! Thats a few hours from me,but they look worth it too haha. There is a place down in the city(philly) who might get them in next week..I think Ill wait and see if they get them,if not Ill check out thatpetplace er fishplace..haha..thanks again.

I just looked on that site,they have none right now. Maybe later on they will lol.

Hi, I live in Philly also, what store do you go to as I am looking for someplace to go besides petco/petsmart...........

Thanks much
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:58 PM   #18
 
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I pmed you. :)
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:45 PM   #19
 
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So I think I recall petsmart having some of these fish,I am gonna take a looksie. I printed out a sheet with all the latin names and a lil info on each so I can make sure I am getting the right one. Or something like that. Also gonna look for some floating type plants. Gonna post a pic of my tank with the pandas,let me know if I should add more plants. Other than the floating kind. Theres a different background now,it looks the amazon,not this silly blue bubbles thingy.


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Old 08-14-2009, 09:33 AM   #20
 
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That's quite a nice aquascape; a group of pencilfish to keep your pandas company will do well I would expect.

One can never have too many plants...well, I suppose maybe, but...

For a good floating plant in this type of setup (with pencils) see if you can find Ceratopteris (Indian Fern, Water Sprite are a couple of common names). It grows very well and very fast in soft acidic water but others have had success adapting it to more basic water. The dangling roots are favourite haunts of pencilfish for browsing and spawning. You can see it in the photos of my 70g, floating. It sometimes takes a while adjusting to a new (different) tank, but once it does, it will grow. I chuck out daughter plants (they form on the leaves by the dozens) every other week or it would choke the surface of my aquarium.

Some pygmy chain swords at the bottom would be nice, they send out runners and produce daughter plants every 2-3 inches once established, and would cover the bottom in a few months (you can always trim out the plants to keep parts open for the corys to feed). I also have this in both tanks, the lighter green short plant spreading across the substrate. It grows about 3-5 inches high depending upon intensity of light (with less intense light it grows taller with thinner leaves, more intense light it grows shorter with more and slightly wider leaves).

If you can't find either locally, I can mail you some (did this for another member a while back and they arrived fine and are growing well he says) for the cost of the postage. But have a good hunt locally, because local stores will have them in your type of water (which is bound to be quite different from mine that is very soft and acidic) so they will adapt a bit easier.

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