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Need help! Setting up Amazon/Tetra tank!
Old 01-04-2011, 11:47 AM   #71
 
If your going for a biotope these are all fishes that would fit in.

rineloricaria fallax - Whiptail Catfish
Twig catfish - Farlowella vittata
Gold Ram - Mikrogeophagus ramirezi
Banjo Catfish - Bunocephalus coracoideus
striped dora - platydoras costatus

yellow dwarf cichlid - apistogramma borellii
cockatoo dwark cichlid - apistogramma cacatuoides
checkerboard cichlid - crenicara filamentosa
Severum - heros severus
Festive cichlid - mesonauta festivus
Angelfish - Pterophyllum scalare

And these are plants that fit the biotope, with some drift wood,
Echindorus - Rose
Micranthemum
Eleocharis acicularis - Hairgrass
Echinodorus tenellus
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:40 AM   #72
 
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That seems like a very interesting setup. Thanks for the idea. I think I will just have it well planted, and do water changes every once and a while (once a week). In my overstocked (stocked over recommendation) QT, my ammonia and Nitrates are in-existant. It gets less maintaince than my other tanks (it has aponogeton, anacharis, and a HUGE glob of Hornwort that was small when I got it).

I don't think I ordered the filter correctly on eBay. I'll have to email the guy back.. It will be another 2 weeks minimum before it will come in.

My 3-stripe corydoras appeared to be eating the diatoms the other day. It didn't show any damage on the diatoms, but it spent a long time cruizing up and down that wall.

No real improvement on the getting-together-of-the-equipment. I hope to have the tank up and running by March.

Thanks!

(sorry it has been so long since I have responded. My internet went down afew days ago, and the internet guy just fixed it.)
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:07 AM   #73
 
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Sorry, my edit time ran out right before I remembered to add this.

Anyway, I forgot to ask about the Flourish. I got exactly what you recommended, Byron, and I have afew questions.
1) Do you refridgerate the Flourish (I know it is optional, but it says fridgeration is recommended, does it matter?)?
2) Can I use this in my (slightly) overstocked, filtered w/ air-stone 10g?
3) Can I use this in my (slightly) overplanted, unfiltered (but about to be filtered) 2 gallon hex?

Thanks!
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:34 AM   #74
 
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I now refrigerate Flourish. I didn't at first, and by the time I got to the end of the jug (I buy the 2 litre jug which is long-term much less expensive and it lasts me several months with all my tanks) it had changed colour. I thought it was not doing as well, but may only have been my surmise. Anyway, I refrigerate it now, and after several months it seems to be the same.

I would use it in any tanks with live plants. Once a week; if very heavily-=planted, and depending upon plant growth, twice a week.

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Sorry, my edit time ran out right before I remembered to add this.

Anyway, I forgot to ask about the Flourish. I got exactly what you recommended, Byron, and I have afew questions.
1) Do you refridgerate the Flourish (I know it is optional, but it says fridgeration is recommended, does it matter?)?
2) Can I use this in my (slightly) overstocked, filtered w/ air-stone 10g?
3) Can I use this in my (slightly) overplanted, unfiltered (but about to be filtered) 2 gallon hex?

Thanks!
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:41 PM   #75
 
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Thanks Byron!
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:26 PM   #76
 
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It came!!!!!!

It arrived! The filter I have been waiting for for weeks! I will go get an airpump for it later. Should I get an airpump rated 20-60g (that is the rateing for the model I am looking at)?

Now that I have the filter, I need to build the substrate. Due to lack of local soils, I wont be able to use some substrate setups that have been suggested. It doesn't need to be easy to setup, I just don't want it to take days to stabilize (maybe a week at most, if that is possible). I have most of a 50lb bag of play sand from my 5g tank setup. Will playsand be useful in the setup? I just need to get something figured out.

Plants are the other bottleneck. I can't find any of the amazonian plants that have been mentioned on this thread at my lfs. I have seen them in other places, but not at the one I go to (it is an hour away). Maybe I should just order them all at once off the internet. I just can't imageine shipping cost..

Hopefully, I can get to my lfs some time this week. I still need another 2 3-stripe cories and another 1 or 2 Lemon tetras. Maybe a guppy and some free MTS for my 5g.

One of my Lemon Tetras is badly sick. I isolated it the moment I saw the symtoms. I had another tetra die of this fungus looking diesase. It looks like a patch of fungus that grows from the inside-out! It appearently started in the tetra, but now I can see it comeing out of the Ltetra! I am afraid to medicate it, but at this point, it will die without help. Unfortunately, I have been so busy, I forgot to post about the sick little guy. I don't know what it is, or how to treat it. Ugh.

Anyway, I hope to have the tank up by Febuary (excuse my spelling). If anyone has any plant site recommendations, feel free to post the name of the site. I don't have any plants for the amazon tank, yet.

I'll keep y'all posted!
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:45 PM   #77
 
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Exclamation I need a Substrate plan!

I have been very busy, but know I need a substrate plan. I think I will be getting some amazon sword some time in the future. Maybe some other kind of amazonian rooted plant. I need to know what to do for substrate, even if it isn't the best plan. I have almost 50lbs of play sand. I love black gravel, pricey, but pretty in an amazon tank. I need to do something. Why wait any longer? I just don't know what to do. I know this is somewhat of a sensetive topic, but I need to work something out very soon. Tired of staring at an empty tank.

Suggestions will be appreciated and considered. Thanks!
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:59 PM   #78
 
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My suggestion would be to go with something dark, if you want authentic Amazonian streams. Most are dark substrate (grayish or black sand/mud/leaf litter and bogwood), a few are lighter (buff sand/leaf litter/wood).

As to the material, almost anything will work (gravel, sand, soil with gravel top, or one of the "plant" substrates like Eco-complete or Flourite). There are advantages/disadvantages to some of these, which generally means more work/effort and/or less room for fluctuations if something goes wrong.

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Old 01-19-2011, 03:00 AM   #79
 
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Well, I don't want something too costly. Trying to save up for a sw setup, but that is another story.

What do you recommend for a fast setup. I have play sand, but I don't like how brightly colored it is. If I got gravel, it would be pretty pricey. At 10lbs per Gal. at $6.50, that adds up pretty fast. I am not opposed to gravel, just don't want to spend alot on something that isn't going to be the most authentic (is that the right word?). What do you use, Byron?
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:36 AM   #80
 
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I have used regular aquarium gravel for 20 years, except for one tank that has dark play sand. Personally I would not use sand in large tanks (my sand tank is only a 10g) because you need sand depth for large plants as you want in a 4-foot tank, and that is where the trouble starts. I know, several members use sand, and it works; but as I mentioned previously, there is more effort and if it does compact, you've got a real problem. I have 5-6 inches of gravel in my large tanks (90g, 115g) to accommodate the big swords, and I have never had an issue with it yet, and I do not touch it. Sand at that depth would most assuredly compact.

You can buy gravel in bulk in some fish stores, and that is significantly cheaper than buying bags of it. The "standard" natural buff gravel used to be widely available, and I have that in my present 115g, 33g and 20g. I found some dark bulk gravel years ago in one store, and have that in my 90g. My 70g has "Birdseye" gravel which is the same in colour (dark mix) but larger bits, what is called pea gravel size; I found this in a landscape supply place, and it was very cheap at 75 cents for a 3 gallon pail, so for less than $5 I got sufficient for the 70g tank (4 feet length). I tested it first to see if it would affect the water chemistry and it is inert, so it was safe to use. Calcareous gravels will raise hardness and pH, you don't want that in a planted tank of soft water fish. Plants do not grow quite as easily in this larger size, and I am not that keen on it as a plant substrate, but it works to replicate an Indian/Asian stream with loaches, and that is what this tank was intended for.

I would definitely recommend gravel, smallest grain. Check around with landscape or gravel supply places. If you find something, put a couple handfuls in a jar with water and leave it for a week or two and test the pH at the first and after a week; if it is the same it is inert.
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