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Need help! Setting up Amazon/Tetra tank!
Old 12-16-2010, 06:58 PM   #51
 
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Are double-tube fixtures standard? I can't figure out if this one is a double tube or not.

Here is the hood/fixture;
Aquarium Lighting & Hoods: All-Glass Deluxe Fluorescent Full Hoods - Black

I hope it will still work...
This is fine. It appears to be a single-tube fixture but that is not an issue as far as I am concerned. I had a single tube over my 4-foot 50g tank years ago and I had exceptional plant growth. And that was back before we had (or knew about) full spectrum tubes which are much better for plants.

And, the All Glass fixtures are in my view very well made. I bought two of them last year, and I am very pleased with them.

The tube that comes with them is garbage though; mine went straight into the recycling. I will repeat what I said earlier about good tubes: the "daylight" (or whatever they may call it) with a Kelvin around 6500K and made by GE, Phillips or Sylvannia will work fine. A 48-inch tube will cost a couple dollars.

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Old 12-17-2010, 06:12 AM   #52
 
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That is great! I went to Walmart and found some 6500k GE lighting (40W) that was about $6 for 2 tubes. I also found daylight for an 18" fixture. Should I get that for my QT (10g flouresent fixture)? It was called an F15 or something like that. Right now, my QT has 9350k which is probably too high?

I am so glad I am done "lighting shopping"! I don't think 2 months ago I would have guessed that lighting would be the most expensive thing in the setup. I am also trying to get the sponge filter on Ebay. I can get 200W heaters for $30 each at Walmart but I think they are cheaper elsewhere (maybe $20-$25 at Petsmart).

As for substrate, I still need to buy clay. It has been suggested that I use commercial hardening clay. If that will work that sounds fine to me. I just thought that commercial potters clay was synthetic? I am just being overly cautious.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:08 AM   #53
 
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Sorry for the double post. I can't edit my last one.

I would really like a permenant resident for my QT (10g). I am thinking fish and plant friendly that most likely wont be killed by any of the characins I have chosen. Snails, frogs, shrimp, tiny fish, is there anything that might work? I wont be heart-broken if nothing works, I just was curious.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:31 AM   #54
 
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That is great! I went to Walmart and found some 6500k GE lighting (40W) that was about $6 for 2 tubes. I also found daylight for an 18" fixture. Should I get that for my QT (10g flouresent fixture)? It was called an F15 or something like that. Right now, my QT has 9350k which is probably too high?

I am so glad I am done "lighting shopping"! I don't think 2 months ago I would have guessed that lighting would be the most expensive thing in the setup. I am also trying to get the sponge filter on Ebay. I can get 200W heaters for $30 each at Walmart but I think they are cheaper elsewhere (maybe $20-$25 at Petsmart).

As for substrate, I still need to buy clay. It has been suggested that I use commercial hardening clay. If that will work that sounds fine to me. I just thought that commercial potters clay was synthetic? I am just being overly cautious.

Thanks for the help!
A daylight tube for the QT is fine. If there are no plants the type of light is somewhat irrelevant, but personally I like my tanks to be the same.

What is the clay for? This can be very disastrous.
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Old 12-20-2010, 04:01 PM   #55
 
9325K bulbs are actually my preferred ones. I buy those online specially for my show tanks. Only GE makes them.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:11 PM   #56
 
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Will 9350k bulbs grow alot of additional algae? Just curious. (BTW, I get those at my local walmart, have you checked walmart?)

Someone suggested Green Cories for the Amazon tank. What about 3 of those?

I ordered the filter. It should be here within 2 weeks.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:42 AM   #57
 
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Well, some people use clay for substrate (the bottom layer). I didn't know if there was a safe commercial clay.

The QT has plants! I don't know what I am going to do with the MASSIVE glob of Hornwort. My anacharis is looking nice, as well as my (old) aponogeton. My tank is growing (ALOT) of brown (algae?) on the walls of the tank, and on my Gator decor. I can switch to daylight if you recomend it. 1 F15 daylight tube (18") is slightly more expensive than 2 T8 daylight tubes (48") from the same brand! I guess the 48" are more commercial.

Me and my dad built the stand for the Amazon tank. Here is a picture.
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It still has that 8000k bulb that I need to recycle. How does the stand look? I stood on it, and then invited my dad up. It is made of center blocks (not solid) and 1" sturdy-floor grade plywood.

My tank needs some decor. I don't know how to make hardwood into driftwood. Someone should demonstrate, and then sticky it on the plants forum (on TFK). In the meantime (lol), how do I saftely turn hardwood into driftwood? I have a nice forest behind my house. I am sure I can find some really cool pieces of wood. Don't worry, my dad is a forester, I know the difference between hardwood and softwood!

I got a corydoras to QT. I think it is a Julii, but I am not for absolute sure. I'll get a pic up.
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The filter should get here soon (this week). Next time I go to my "local Petsmart" I will check for Amazon Sword. They don't normally carry Pygmy Chain Sword and I don't think they have Pennywort. What do I need for a floating plant species (unless Pennywort was the floating plant species)? I have a $25 gift card to Walmart and a $20 gift card for Petsmart (YAY!).

I think I can have the tank setup by the end of January if not sooner.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:13 PM   #58
 
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That stand is excellent. I have something very similar under my 70g. The concrete blocks stacked that way are very secure, and the plywood is just right for the tank frame to "sink" into if it may be minutely uneven which they often are. Nice job indeed.

Diatoms (brown algae) is very common in newly-establish tanks, during the first 2-3 months. Keep it off live plant leaves (use your fingers at the water change). Although I don't recommend fish solely for algae, if you do get otos, Farlowella, BN pleco, they will eat diatoms and when the algae is gone sinking foods.

Wood is a risk. First, it must be hardwood. Second, it must be completely dry naturally, by which I mean have been off the live tree for long enough that it has dried completely with respect to inner sap; this is very important. Then, it must be soaked to waterlog it, and boiled to remove parasites. After all this, there is still a risk that it may have absorbed a toxic substance sometime in the past--weed killer, pesticide, oil, fertilizer... you get the idea. The larger/thicker the piece, the more this is an issue. I prefer wood from the fish store, and I use the very dark (almost black) heavy wood that sinks immediately and is very long-lasting; it is sometimes called ironwood, mangrove root, and similar names.

I'm fairly certain from the photo that your cory is Corydoras trilineatus. It is frequently seen in stores as C. julii; if you read our profile, it explains the external pattern differences.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:40 PM   #59
 
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Thanks for the complament on the stand, Byron, but you actually gave me the idea and the plans for it. It was in the thread "Embers and Lemons in a 10g" or something like that. Thanks for that!

The cory matches the pictures and profile of the 3 stripe cory. I just need to get 2 more.

Are otos suitable for a 10g? My 10g QT is the tank with the diatoms. Maybe because I have started useing lighting relatively reciently.

Is the Ironwood and Mangrove root the same as driftwood? Would I find those items at a Petsmart (assuming they were properly stocked) in the fish department? I have seen driftwood in the reptile section. It was sort of expensive, but would that work? I have also heard Morpani wood is the same as driftwood. I don't know my 'aquarium woods' very well.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:09 PM   #60
 
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Thanks for the complament on the stand, Byron, but you actually gave me the idea and the plans for it. It was in the thread "Embers and Lemons in a 10g" or something like that. Thanks for that!

The cory matches the pictures and profile of the 3 stripe cory. I just need to get 2 more.

Are otos suitable for a 10g? My 10g QT is the tank with the diatoms. Maybe because I have started useing lighting relatively reciently.

Is the Ironwood and Mangrove root the same as driftwood? Would I find those items at a Petsmart (assuming they were properly stocked) in the fish department? I have seen driftwood in the reptile section. It was sort of expensive, but would that work? I have also heard Morpani wood is the same as driftwood. I don't know my 'aquarium woods' very well.
I personally wouldn't clutter up the QT with otos. Keep the algae off the main plant leaves manually.

Wood has different names in different places, so it is not always this or that from the name. Mopani is different, light tan/brown colour, and takes a while to get waterlogged (so doesn't sink easily), and in my experience is high in tannins. It also sometimes has that fungus which is a problem. The really black heavy wood as shown in my tank photos is what I have seen as ironwood or mangrove root. It is a dark brown fully dry, and I have seen it in stores here. I like buying it from tanks, because the tannins have leeched out and it is well soaked, though it does sink even when dry because of the density. It also looks realistic as "bogwood" or underwater driftwood.
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