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Old 05-27-2012, 08:23 AM   #31
 
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In regards to blood worms, these are not always a good thing to offer to any fish, let me explain why. The source of the blood worms is usually unknown, and blood worms (aka mosquito larvae) can carry disease that can affect fish. Where the blood worms come from, how they were collected, and how they are treated before packaging all play a major role in how healthy of a food source this is for the fish. Some people are under the impression that freeze dried blood worms are safer because the freeze drying process eliminates the chances of disease getting through to the fish... this is not true. Some people are under the impression that frozen blood worms are safer because they are flash frozen... again, not true. Neither of these processes eliminates disease that the worms themselves can carry. This is a food I always warn to feed sparingly as a "treat" food for most fish. There are too many other safer, healthier options than blood worms for any species of fish. I have noticed that there has been a large increase in the use of blood worms as part of the staple diet in many species of fish and this can be a contributing factor in the wide spread of some diseases that are getting to be more commonly found in freshwater aquarium fish.
Thanks for mentioning this. . . I've read this in a few other places, as well. It seems that feeding bloodworm is being linked to illnesses very like what we are experiencing due to various toxins and bacteria being frozen with the worms. It's sad, as the creatures like them so very much, but I have made the decision to eliminate them from my fish's diet based on these reports. It is VERY nice to hear the same info from a trustworthy source like you! Thanks again!
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:11 AM   #32
 
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If I can't find the pure medication should I just go for the jungle labs food? My pet shops are pretty limited and I lack the ability to order online. :/
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:49 AM   #33
 
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I AM ordering online, but I've been wondering the same thing for people who can't. I know the chain shops don't carry it around here, either. My LFS shop did, but they recently closed down. I called every other shop in my area, and couldn't find it, either. I wonder. . . if you called a veterinary office if they might stock it - or at least point you in the right direction of where it might be found? Worth a try! Hopefully Dawn or Byron can help with this conundrum, because it is likely to be an issue that many people have. . .
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:13 PM   #34
 
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I AM ordering online, but I've been wondering the same thing for people who can't. I know the chain shops don't carry it around here, either. My LFS shop did, but they recently closed down. I called every other shop in my area, and couldn't find it, either. I wonder. . . if you called a veterinary office if they might stock it - or at least point you in the right direction of where it might be found? Worth a try! Hopefully Dawn or Byron can help with this conundrum, because it is likely to be an issue that many people have. . .
As I mentinoed back in this thread, I used Aquarium Solutions Metro+ because it was all I could get that had the metro and not the other medicinal ingredients. Beyond this, I can't say.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:36 PM   #35
 
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In this situation I would say that the Jungle labs medicated food would be ok for the corys, however, I would then treat the sick cory in a quarantine tank because bettas don't react well to levamisole. Even though the percentage of that particular medication is small, it may still have an effect on the bettas in the tank. I'd also like to mention that I have never had to dose a betta with the praziquantel, so I am not sure (or confident) that they will find that completely safe either. Bettas are sensitive to many of the common medications.

In regards to the blood worms, I stand corrected. Not sure why I had mosquito larvae on the brain last night... blood worms are midge fly larvae. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:56 PM   #36
 
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Now you all have me paranoid I've fed bloodworms to all my fish. I'm going to treat my German Ram starting today with Jungle meds as a precaution now. It's described as a good propholactic (spelling) to use as prevention too.

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Old 05-27-2012, 01:19 PM   #37
 
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My dad wouldn't take me to the pet store because we didn't have time today. :( Being young is such a challenge sometime. I'll city bus down there sometime this week though.
Good to know that the medicine isn't safe for the betta though, they are my first fish so I love them dearly. I'll have to QT the cory. Hope he doesn't stress too much on his own.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:27 PM   #38
 
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Gwen,
I would NOT suggest medicating your ram unless there is a specific reason to do so. That particular medication is not one I would suggest as a preventive unless there was a specific issue going on in your tank and other fish were showing symptoms, etc. Preventive meds in some situations can be a good thing, but in the case of rams especially, they are sensitive fish and you will likely do more harm than good. IF you see symptoms to indicate illness please start a thread and post the details and I will do all I can to help you diagnose and treat the problem.

This is one of the many dangers of internet forums that really upsets me. People get online and begin to read threads for other people's situations and quick jump to do things that are not needed (often harmful) with their own fish. Not all medications are safe for all fish and medications that treat one illness in one species does not mean it is safe to use for the same illness in another species.

The most important thing I would like to stress for EVERYONE who keeps fish is that each situation is individual, each fish is individual, and should be treated as such. There is no one overall general cure or preventive that is safe for all fish or all situations. Please pass the word around to others you know because you will very likely save a life if you do so. Thanks!
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #39
 
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Yes, that's why I'm wary, cories are sensitive fish, though in this case the betta are more at risk.
Think this went unnoticed: Dawn, do you think the Cory will catch up size wise to the rest once he is cured or is he permanently stunted?
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:42 PM   #40
 
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I would NOT suggest medicating your ram unless there is a specific reason to do so. That particular medication is not one I would suggest as a preventive unless there was a specific issue going on in your tank and other fish were showing symptoms, etc. Preventive meds in some situations can be a good thing, but in the case of rams especially, they are sensitive fish and you will likely do more harm than good. IF you see symptoms to indicate illness please start a thread and post the details and I will do all I can to help you diagnose and treat the problem.

This is one of the many dangers of internet forums that really upsets me. People get online and begin to read threads for other people's situations and quick jump to do things that are not needed (often harmful) with their own fish. Not all medications are safe for all fish and medications that treat one illness in one species does not mean it is safe to use for the same illness in another species.

The most important thing I would like to stress for EVERYONE who keeps fish is that each situation is individual, each fish is individual, and should be treated as such. There is no one overall general cure or preventive that is safe for all fish or all situations. Please pass the word around to others you know because you will very likely save a life if you do so. Thanks!

Thanks Dawn. I do see his respiration a bit more rapid. Tried to take a video, but for some reason, can't upload it. He's recently been treated for hole in head disease, and it appears to be healing, but I guess I'm just worried he could have a parasite. I keep my water parameters good, usually have 0 nitrates, sometimes 5ppm, but not sure why he even got HIH

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