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post #11 of 15 Old 05-11-2009, 05:51 AM Thread Starter
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woke up expecting a floater but the little guy is still going...colors are returning to normal... it sounds stupid and 'n00bish' but is it possible they were a male/female pair and it was stress from the loss? i know this is exhibited in other animals like doves...

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Thanks to me, my family lives in a zoo. Could the always increasing number of fish, 3 Snails, 9 Shrimp, 3 Caudates, Dog, Cat, and 2 Birds POSSIBLY have ANYTHING to do with it?
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post #12 of 15 Old 05-11-2009, 08:26 AM
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No, sorry i didnt ask :(
i just dont wanna loose him, hes one of my favorites... *sigh*
It's good to know when you buy fish what the pH and temperature of the store's water is; the more it varies from your own, the longer should be the acclimatization period when you slowly mix water from your tank with the water in the bag so as to gradually acclimate the fish to different water. This process will avoid sudden changes that are stressful to fish. The store people won't mind you asking next time.

Yes, these are beautiful and fascinating fish. I hope the second one makes it for you. Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #13 of 15 Old 05-11-2009, 01:36 PM Thread Starter
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ty byron :)
i believe i acclimated these guys for about 20 minutes...i wouldve done it longer but the store was an hour away so i didnt want them in the bag too long.

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Thanks to me, my family lives in a zoo. Could the always increasing number of fish, 3 Snails, 9 Shrimp, 3 Caudates, Dog, Cat, and 2 Birds POSSIBLY have ANYTHING to do with it?
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ty byron :)
i believe i acclimated these guys for about 20 minutes...i wouldve done it longer but the store was an hour away so i didnt want them in the bag too long.
Once you open the bag (to air) and start mixing the water, you can take your time. I'll explain how I (and many others) do this, just in case its new to you; pardon me if this is already something you know.

Some pour the fish and water from the bag into a pail (aquarium use only of course) and then gradually add water from the tank to the pail, either with a drip system or by small amounts like a cup or half cup at a time. If using a drip system, just let it drip until you've about doubled the bag water with water from the tank. If using a cup, wait 15 minutes, then add another cup, and so forth, until the bag water is doubled. If the fish are particularly sensitive (like pencilfish), or I know the store's water is quite different from my tanks in terms of pH or hardness, I would do a bit more mixing but with less water each time. Then, when done, net the fish out of the pail and into the tank. Never pour the water into the tank; the store water will have ammonia in it from bringing the fish home, and may contain other things like pathogens. None of this belongs in your aquarium.

I sometimes don't use a pail and instead float the opened bag in the tank to equalize temp, then slowly add half cups of water like above, waiting betwen. Then net the fish into the tank.

If a quarantine tank is used, same process as above. The goal is to get the fish acclimatized to your water with as little stress as possible.

Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #15 of 15 Old 06-03-2009, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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update: hes colored up and eating a little. i will try baby brine shrimp tommorrow

-AJ

Thanks to me, my family lives in a zoo. Could the always increasing number of fish, 3 Snails, 9 Shrimp, 3 Caudates, Dog, Cat, and 2 Birds POSSIBLY have ANYTHING to do with it?
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