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post #11 of 11 Old 06-23-2009, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by saulat View Post
I am pretty sure my pleco is a small species and won't get bigger than 4inches, I just forgot what he was called, the salesperson hunted through several tanks and he was the last. I didn't really get the vibe today from the salesperson that he was trying to sell me things. He was helpful and good with the fish, plus the conversation I heard with him and someone with no knowledge trying to buy a saltwater tank made me think he wasnt the type to do that. He very well may have been though lol. He told me that the clowns shouldn't get too big if I don't overfeed them since it is a smaller tank but that could have been unintentional misinformation on his part. I'll do a post about the lighting. Thanks.
AuntKymmie was bang on about the clown loaches (and the other stuff too, for that matter). Clowns get 12 inches if they are well maintained. I happened to see some in one of my lfs the other day, a group of five in a very large tank, they were about 7-8 inches and what a sight. They are very social and need to be in a group. But five 12-inch fish require a 6-foot long tank or larger, in my opinion. And I must disagree with that salesperson on this issue. Keeping clowns in too small a tank just to prevent them from growing properly is not responsible, and frankly is cruel to the fish. I've written elsewhere about the effect of tank size on fish growth and the internal problems this causes, and it is an established fact that fish develop immune system issues and other health problems as a result of being in too little space. It seems to be the water quality more than the actual physical space but I doubt any of us would have the willingness to do major water changes three times a day to maintain the fish at good health. And that is what we are talking about.

There are several small species of loach if that is what you want; in another recent thread I and others posted some comments and photos.

On the SAE, it grows up to 16cm (6+ inches) so that's another large fish not suitable to a small tank. Although we don't know the size of your tank, I'm assuming from the lighting issue this is the hexagonal tank in the other thread. In my view, a SAE is not suitable. Go with the ottos, minimum 3 (they also fare better in a group) but only acquire them after the tank is matured (cycled and then some) and algae is present; they do not tolerate fluctuating water quality and they need algae to graze (that is their sole activity) or they frequently perish as many on this forum have attested to. They will consume the brown (diatom) and comon green algae that gets on plant leaves, and do a super job of it.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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