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Please help!..Can't identify problem with my panda cory
Old 08-30-2014, 09:36 AM   #1
 
Please help!..Can't identify problem with my panda cory

Hi! I am relatively new to keeping fish and have learned a great deal since I began about a year ago. Anyway, I think I have a sick panda cory, but can't identify or diagnose a problem. I have a 20 gallon tank which is completely cycled. A=0, N2=0, N3=10. Stocked with 4 panda corys and 3 platys. Last PWC/gravel vac was 4 days ago. The only real sign of a problem is that he isn't eating and seems much more lethargic than usual. Looks as though he is isolating himself a bit as well. This signs began 2 days ago. Noticed this morning that one of my platys doesn't want to eat either. I have no idea what might be wrong and don't want to medicate without knowing the problem. Any thoughts on what might be wrong or suggestions for a course of treatment? Really don't want to lose these little guys! Thanks!!
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:39 AM   #2
 
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Still no change with my panda cory. He seemed a little more active yesterday, but is listless again today. Still not eating with the others either, though I suppose he could be eating at night or when I'm just not watching. Tends to keep to himself for the most part. Water parameters are still good. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:54 PM   #3
 
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I am dealing with some crap in my 120g myself right now, but since I've been through a bit, maybe I can help. Do you have a picture of your panda cory or platy? If they look normal, (no bloating, no wasting, no slimy coat, white or red spots, no redness), and it's just behavioural changes you are noticing, I'll say you know your fish the best, so something's up.

Any fast or laboured breathing, is he/she keeping balance? Swimming smoothly?

Have you added anything into the tank recently? How long have you had your cory and platy?
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:06 PM   #4
 
Thanks for trying to lend a hand with this situation of mine. It's driving me crazy trying to figure out what might be wrong. I can't seem to get a good picture of my panda. He's staying in more secluded areas of my tank and I don't want to stress him any more by pestering him to move. Maybe tomorrow he'll venture out and I can get a good picture. I have to say though, there are no visible signs of anything wrong. Swimming is fine. No labored breathing. Balance is good. No redness anywhere. No white patches. There is a very small nick in his dorsal fine, but other than that he appears totally healthy. He is just very inactive compared to his normal behavior and he doesn't scrounge for food with the other 3 like he was just a few days ago. I've had him for a little over a month now. The only thing added to the tank was 2 additional pandas and a platy about 2 weeks ago. I was stocking my tank slowly and knew I needed a larger group of the pandas to keep them happy. The 4 pandas seemed fine together for the first week and a half. All swimming and scrounging the tank merrily together. Could I have upset things more than I helped by adding the extra pandas? Do I need another (would be 5 total) to help with the group dynamics maybe? Or is my guy sick and I need to be thinking of antibiotics? Any thoughts are much appreciated! Thanks!
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:33 PM   #5
 
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Ok. So I may be on to something, but would love some additional advice from all those here with far more knowledgeable on fish care that I am. Anyway, as I said before, my panda cory has been acting very out of character the past few days now. I had noticed a very slight tear in its dorsal fin, but it didn't seem too bad and there were no other signs of anything wrong. Just the odd lethargic behavior and the lack of appetite. Today, it looks as if the tip of the dorsal fin is gone. Just a ragged edge from where the tear used to be all the way across the tip. It also looks to me like at least one tip (if not both tips) of the tail fin is gone as well. I have seen no bullying at all so I really don't think it is a case of an aggressive fish in the tank. Could I have a case of fin rot? Would that explain the sluggish behavior and lack of appetite? Water parameters are still solid. Let me know what you think. Would really like to get a start on treatment if that is what you folks think I need to do. Suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:45 PM   #6
 
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I don't think you've upset things by adding more fish. In a 20 gallon tank, this is not overstocked by any means, and stocking slowly is a good idea when you are starting up a tank. Panda cories (I've kept these before) are happy in a group, yes, the bigger the better, but I think a group of four are fine.

Hmmm. Secluding himself. The first time reading your thread, I thought parasite. A lack of appetite, lethargy and hiding is sign of this. But so is just stress. You mentioned he had a nick out of his dorsal fin, but you don't have any nippy fish. Did you get your panda cories from the same tank, same LFS? Was the panda tankmates with nippy fish in the fish store? Was the nick there when you got him?

Those questions are a bit all over the place, I was just trying to find out if there's a chance an internal parasite (or an external one you can't see) could possibly have been introduced with your new fish 2 weeks ago, or if something's stressing him out. If it was your tank parameters or conditions, all your fish would be exhibiting symptoms, so it's not that. But I don't like to add meds in unnecessarily.

I will let you know that I had a fish acting this way recently. I decided in my tank, along with the way some other fish looked or acted in the tank that it was internal parasites plaguing the tank. The good thing about dewormers and even some antibiotics, they don't necessarily upset the biofilter, if done properly (not overdosed and meds not mixed together unless compatible). And I've researched a lot lately. So I ended up dosing the tank once with PraziPro (praziquantel). The fish acting like your panda cory was pretty much back to herself the very next day. She is eating enthusiastically, regained her top strata, not hiding anymore. Liquid Praziquantel is great for many different parasites (but not all) and gets absorbed by the fish, so it's good when fish aren't eating, as opposed to medicating food, but pricey.

How's your platy doing now, is he/she eating, or still not too hungry?
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Old 09-02-2014, 01:50 PM   #7
 
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I didn't get your last post before I posted mine. I am not so experienced with fin rot, but is there any white on the edges of the fins? Not to say finrot can't be it, but it's usually brought on as a result of poor water quality, your's is good. Keep a very close eye on the other fish and see if anyone knows much about finrot. Good luck!!
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:29 PM   #8
 
The other 3 pandas and all 3 of the platys (including the one I was worried about a couple days ago) are all acting perfectly fine. Eating well, active, and exhibiting no odd or unusual behaviors. Did manage to get a better look at the panda that has me worried. The tip of the dorsal fin is gone as is the tip of the upper tail fin. Both fins were fine when I brought him home and then I noticed the small tear in the dorsal fin just the other day. The tip is gone from the point where the tear had been. I don't have any aggressive fish and haven't seen any bullying or nipping at all. And with all the time I have spent staring at my fish lately, I think I would have seen it by now if it were happening. He does seem even more sluggish today, combined with the fin issues. Not eating at all still. Is it time for meds and if so, what is recommended? I don't have a hospital tank (I know...I should!).
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:06 PM   #9
 
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A hospital tank would be the best when you are not sure of the issue and the other fish are fine......(sorry for that)

I'd wait for someone else's opinion on anything bacterial......BUT.......

I will offer you my experience in case no one posts for a bit. So, I recently also dealt with bacterial problems (possibly caused by the parasites in my case). I used Kanaplex (liquid kanamycin) and fed with broad spectrum antibiotic soaked food for 2 weeks. The symptoms (different than yours) subsided. But if it is finrot, Kanamycin is good for that, is added to the water (absorbed by the fish) and should not harm the biofilter or any aquarium animals. I used it in my planted tank with snails with no problems.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:10 PM   #10
 
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I forgot to ask about your substrate. No pointy, rough stones or rocks?
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