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Old 03-04-2012, 12:56 AM   #1
 
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My Raphael catfish

Hi Guy's, this is my first post here so hopefully someone can help.

My Raphael catfish has recently started prowling in the day-time while usually he's never to be seen unless the lights in the tank are off. Lately he's been frequenting the tank with the lights on more often than ever and I was just wondering if that is normal?

PS: I have a large piece of driftwood for him to burrow in so it's not because he can't find shelter.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:36 AM   #2
 
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Hi Guy's, this is my first post here so hopefully someone can help.

My Raphael catfish has recently started prowling in the day-time while usually he's never to be seen unless the lights in the tank are off. Lately he's been frequenting the tank with the lights on more often than ever and I was just wondering if that is normal?

PS: I have a large piece of driftwood for him to burrow in so it's not because he can't find shelter.

I did some research and there are some cases when they do come out during the day. Some just like to change it up a little. Have you checked your water? Does he have any spots on him or anything that makes him look like he is sick? The piece of driftwood you have is it completely dark in there for him or is there still some light? If there is still light in it then that could be why. Some research I looked at said that it can throw off their cycle if it is not completely dark. I don't know how but just going off of an hours worth of research.

As long as your water levels are good and he is moving around and not jut laying in one spot constantly or looking like he is gasping for air and he has no spots on him then he is just being curious.

Also another reason I found that they can do this is if they are not getting enough to eat. I am sure that is not the issue but I am just giving you all of the info that I have gotten.

Well hopefully I have helped you some with this. I try and help the best I can with a lot of research. I love learning a lot of new things about different types of fish and also now thinking about getting one of these guys b/c they are very interesting and seem to be great and would go well in my new 30G tank. Good luck with him and let me know if you need anymore info and I can look up whatever and research some more for you if you would like. I have all the time in the world I had surgery so I am stuck in bed for a month. But it gives me time to help people.
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Old 03-04-2012, 04:50 PM   #3
 
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Thanks Mandi!

The driftwood has "some" light so maybe I should hollow it out some more? I bought the driftwood from my LFS and I manually hollowed it out because they didn't have any hollow ones. I'll give it a go and see how it works out.

My water is ok, he is not gasping for air and there are no diseases in my tank as far as I can tell (no parasites sticking off any fish, no ick, etc).

He's a very active guy and is amazing to watch when he's in prowling mode. They are only a few bucks and if you do decide to get one and are great additions to any community tank. I feed this guy only when I turn the lights off because he will not eat during the day no matter how active he is for some reason. I feed him a combination of fish flakes, bloodworms, & shrimp pellets (on a schedule ofcourse). He's hardy and fat so I'm sure he's healthy.

One other interesting thing I've noticed though is he has really taken a liking to the Pleco I have in the tank. My pleco spends most of it's time on top of the driftwood or inside the sunken ship that I have and the Raphael always follows him.

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I did some research and there are some cases when they do come out during the day. Some just like to change it up a little. Have you checked your water? Does he have any spots on him or anything that makes him look like he is sick? The piece of driftwood you have is it completely dark in there for him or is there still some light? If there is still light in it then that could be why. Some research I looked at said that it can throw off their cycle if it is not completely dark. I don't know how but just going off of an hours worth of research.

As long as your water levels are good and he is moving around and not jut laying in one spot constantly or looking like he is gasping for air and he has no spots on him then he is just being curious.

Also another reason I found that they can do this is if they are not getting enough to eat. I am sure that is not the issue but I am just giving you all of the info that I have gotten.

Well hopefully I have helped you some with this. I try and help the best I can with a lot of research. I love learning a lot of new things about different types of fish and also now thinking about getting one of these guys b/c they are very interesting and seem to be great and would go well in my new 30G tank. Good luck with him and let me know if you need anymore info and I can look up whatever and research some more for you if you would like. I have all the time in the world I had surgery so I am stuck in bed for a month. But it gives me time to help people.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:56 AM   #4
 
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Thanks Mandi!

The driftwood has "some" light so maybe I should hollow it out some more? I bought the driftwood from my LFS and I manually hollowed it out because they didn't have any hollow ones. I'll give it a go and see how it works out.

My water is ok, he is not gasping for air and there are no diseases in my tank as far as I can tell (no parasites sticking off any fish, no ick, etc).

He's a very active guy and is amazing to watch when he's in prowling mode. They are only a few bucks and if you do decide to get one and are great additions to any community tank. I feed this guy only when I turn the lights off because he will not eat during the day no matter how active he is for some reason. I feed him a combination of fish flakes, bloodworms, & shrimp pellets (on a schedule ofcourse). He's hardy and fat so I'm sure he's healthy.

One other interesting thing I've noticed though is he has really taken a liking to the Pleco I have in the tank. My pleco spends most of it's time on top of the driftwood or inside the sunken ship that I have and the Raphael always follows him.

Maybe your pleco is a she...lol. How do you tell on them anyway? Guess I should look that up b/c I would like to know what mine is. Hopefully making it a little darker for him will help. I did notice he was hiding a little in the pic you posted so maybe his clock is off a little. He is a cute guy though. Really considering getting one. I would love to watch him come out at night bc I am up most of the nights so I would be able to see he/she whichever I get. Only thing is my other tank that is kind of close by I have to leave the light on for plants and my fry seem to die if I shut it off. Not all just usually 1 or 2 so its really weird. But that is just a little 10G tank. Well good luck and let me know if anything changes and I will see what I can find out. I have made very good friends at my LFS and they have been doing this for 30 plus years so I can always ask someone if I don't know!!!
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:48 AM   #5
 
In my experience all my nocturnal pets and those of friends come out during the day. I think it's just to check things out. I know many daytime(diurnal?) animals do the same thing during the night. Kinda helps the survival rate so to speak, if they can detect danger.

If the raphael is fairly new I would imagine it's because it's starting to feel more comfortable poking his head out and not so worried about it getting bitten off, so he's broadening his horizons.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:03 AM   #6
 
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Maybe your pleco is a she...lol. How do you tell on them anyway? Guess I should look that up b/c I would like to know what mine is. Hopefully making it a little darker for him will help. I did notice he was hiding a little in the pic you posted so maybe his clock is off a little. He is a cute guy though. Really considering getting one. I would love to watch him come out at night bc I am up most of the nights so I would be able to see he/she whichever I get. Only thing is my other tank that is kind of close by I have to leave the light on for plants and my fry seem to die if I shut it off. Not all just usually 1 or 2 so its really weird. But that is just a little 10G tank. Well good luck and let me know if anything changes and I will see what I can find out. I have made very good friends at my LFS and they have been doing this for 30 plus years so I can always ask someone if I don't know!!!
I have no clue how you would tell the sex of a Pleco, something to look into of course though. What I did for him though was I went and bought some Java moss and planted it on top & around the sunken ship he frequents as well as the drift wood so now it's really dark inside both and he shouldn't have anymore issues with the light.

The Raphael will still come out with small amounts of light to feed, my tank is in my living room and after the lights go out in the tank my lights from the TV brighten up the tank some and it's really a sight to see the Raphael feeding. So I wouldn't see your other tank as an issue unless it's blazing a ton of light into your main tank.
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I have no clue how you would tell the sex of a Pleco, something to look into of course though. What I did for him though was I went and bought some Java moss and planted it on top & around the sunken ship he frequents as well as the drift wood so now it's really dark inside both and he shouldn't have anymore issues with the light.

The Raphael will still come out with small amounts of light to feed, my tank is in my living room and after the lights go out in the tank my lights from the TV brighten up the tank some and it's really a sight to see the Raphael feeding. So I wouldn't see your other tank as an issue unless it's blazing a ton of light into your main tank.
That sounds like you made it great for him.

No the lights on my other tank arent super bright and it's across the room. Thinking of moving it to my living room though b/c it is what is causing me not to be able to sleep well at night...lol. Only thing is is with it having the fry in their on about a quarter of the tank (I bought a tank divider) and some tetras on the other side not sure how to move it b/c it's an established tank and don't want to have to end up removing the fish and recycle and all of that all over again. Unless you have any tips on how to move it without having to remove more than I would say no more than 1/3 of the water.

I only have 5 fry in there b/c although I would love to keep them all I do not have a tank large enough to grow them to the size my LFS wants them to be to take them off my hands. Can't fit that many molly's in their to grow that big. The platy's maybe 15-20 b/c they are tiny as it is but definitely not my molly's. Sorry I talk a lot...lol. This is way shorter than most things I write b/c I am paying attention...lol. But let me know if you have any advice or tips on how to move it and not have to recycle again!!!
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:37 PM   #8
 
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That sounds like you made it great for him.

No the lights on my other tank arent super bright and it's across the room. Thinking of moving it to my living room though b/c it is what is causing me not to be able to sleep well at night...lol. Only thing is is with it having the fry in their on about a quarter of the tank (I bought a tank divider) and some tetras on the other side not sure how to move it b/c it's an established tank and don't want to have to end up removing the fish and recycle and all of that all over again. Unless you have any tips on how to move it without having to remove more than I would say no more than 1/3 of the water.

I only have 5 fry in there b/c although I would love to keep them all I do not have a tank large enough to grow them to the size my LFS wants them to be to take them off my hands. Can't fit that many molly's in their to grow that big. The platy's maybe 15-20 b/c they are tiny as it is but definitely not my molly's. Sorry I talk a lot...lol. This is way shorter than most things I write b/c I am paying attention...lol. But let me know if you have any advice or tips on how to move it and not have to recycle again!!!
I guess moving the tank would depend on the size of the tank, I believe this is the 10 Gallon tank your talking about though? I would recommend either getting a hefty man to move it for you (would be the easiest). A 10 gallon is only going to weigh around 100Lbs w/ water + gravel (8-8.25lbs/gallon) And you figure around 5-10lbs for the gravel.

If this is a much larger tank then I suppose you could get some new 5 gallon buckets and Syphon the water out into the buckets then back in afterwards. I'd recommend buying them new and rinsing them thoroughly though. That way your taking out cycled water and adding the same water back into the tank.

You don't necessarily have to worry about the bacteria in the water itself but mostly just the bacteria in the filter, if you remove 1/2 the water and replace it with new water then make sure you don't rinse that filter and keep it wet. Removing 15~25% of your current water but keeping the filter wouldn't be as bad as dumping all the water out and starting over, just make sure you keep that filter in-tact though since that's a really important part.

Side note:

I ordered my Pictus cat today and my Clown loaches. They'll be here on Monday. Exited about that :)
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I guess moving the tank would depend on the size of the tank, I believe this is the 10 Gallon tank your talking about though? I would recommend either getting a hefty man to move it for you (would be the easiest). A 10 gallon is only going to weigh around 100Lbs w/ water + gravel (8-8.25lbs/gallon) And you figure around 5-10lbs for the gravel.

If this is a much larger tank then I suppose you could get some new 5 gallon buckets and Syphon the water out into the buckets then back in afterwards. I'd recommend buying them new and rinsing them thoroughly though. That way your taking out cycled water and adding the same water back into the tank.

You don't necessarily have to worry about the bacteria in the water itself but mostly just the bacteria in the filter, if you remove 1/2 the water and replace it with new water then make sure you don't rinse that filter and keep it wet. Removing 15~25% of your current water but keeping the filter wouldn't be as bad as dumping all the water out and starting over, just make sure you keep that filter in-tact though since that's a really important part.

Side note:

I ordered my Pictus cat today and my Clown loaches. They'll be here on Monday. Exited about that :)

Yes it is my 10G one. I will see if I can get my dad to come over and move it!!!

I am excited too can't wait to see pictures of them!!!
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Yes it is my 10G one. I will see if I can get my dad to come over and move it!!!

I am excited too can't wait to see pictures of them!!!
My pictus cats came in earlier than what I expected so here they are

Still waiting on my loaches though


I'll be doing some rearranging and what not including adding some real plants & removing the fake decor from the tank but for right now it should feel like home for them.
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