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post #11 of 23 Old 01-31-2012, 05:29 PM
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The Sera vitamins are good and an acceptable replacement for the Zoe. Let me take a look through the manufacturer names that you listed and see if I can find you a safe and appropriate substitute for the quinine. In the mean time go ahead and get the vitamins started and continue to work on fixing the nitrite and nitrate problem. Most medications are toxic with poor water quality... quinine is one of the few exceptions. I will post again later tonight or tomorrow once I've had a chance to seek out a safe medication option for you.

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post #12 of 23 Old 01-31-2012, 05:58 PM
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Just an opinion, no medication should be administered until you know what exactly is causing the problem. It can lead to bigger problems by treating for a "might be" illness.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

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Tazman, sometimes it is warranted, especially for some problems where the symptoms are all there but they can only be positively diagnosed via lab work or necropsy. In this situation there is a strong indication of a protozoan problem and the medication I suggested could be used safely with no risk to the fish if there turns out to be no protozoan issue in the end.
I have been working in this field for many yrs (20+) and I don't suggest such things just on a whim or from picking up advice around the internet. I also don't take stupid chances with other people's fish. Fish medicine is my specialty and I have the education and experience behind me to offer help.

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Tazman, sometimes it is warranted, especially for some problems where the symptoms are all there but they can only be positively diagnosed via lab work or necropsy. In this situation there is a strong indication of a protozoan problem and the medication I suggested could be used safely with no risk to the fish if there turns out to be no protozoan issue in the end.
I have been working in this field for many yrs (20+) and I don't suggest such things just on a whim or from picking up advice around the internet. I also don't take stupid chances with other people's fish. Fish medicine is my specialty and I have the education and experience behind me to offer help.
Apology for writing what I did, I failed to see that was your area of Specialty and as such should not be doubting you.


Thank you for your understanding.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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post #15 of 23 Old 01-31-2012, 09:25 PM
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Jolita, the best medication alternative I can find available to you would be the MICROBE-LIFT Metronidazole. The best approach is going to be in treating the food instead of the tank water, as we want the medication to get into the blood stream as quickly as possible.
If you can tell me what foods you are currently offering to your cory catfish I can then talk you through the best/most effective way to treat their food and also give you a full treatment schedule.

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post #16 of 23 Old 02-01-2012, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
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Bad news - MICROBE-LIFT Metronidazole is available only in United States.
I list all medicaments that I can get in my country.

Easy Life Anti Spot
JBL Aradol
JBL Ektol Cristal
JBL Ektol Fluid
JBL Fungol
JBL Furanol 2
JBL Gyrodol 2
JBL Nedol
JBL Oodinol
JBL Punktol ultra
JBL Spirohexol
JBL Catappa

SERA ECTOPUR
Sera Mycopur
Sera Baktopur
Sera Baktopur direct
Sera Bakto tabs
Sera Omnipur

And finally some good news: NO2 is between 0 - 0,5 mg/l and NO3 between 0 - 10 mg/l.

Please, give some links to the products, which would be suitable for my tank.

Thank you very much for Your help!
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post #17 of 23 Old 02-01-2012, 06:21 PM
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I hate to have to tell you this but none of those medications is appropriate for what you need or comparable to the other medications I suggested. If you use any of the products that you listed you would only serve to waste your money and likely cause a faster death to your fish.

The best thing I can recommend for a situation such as yours is to get a quarantine tank asap and move the 2 sick corys out of the main tank. This won't guaranty that your other fish won't contract this problem, but the chances of it infecting your entire tank are much higher if these 2 obviously sick fish remain in there. All you can do without appropriate medication available is to watch the sick fish (in quarantine) until they appear to be suffering (unable to eat, can't swim properly, etc) and then to humanely euthanize them. If any of your other fish begin to show the same kinds of symptoms my advice would be the same for them.

When dealing with this kind of protozoan problem it will eventually get into their neurological system and affect muscles and the ability to move properly, breathe properly, etc. Sometimes it can be visible as a bent spine, uncontrollable twitching, rapid gill movement/distressed breathing, and an inability to hold their bodies upright (drooping back end) as they swim. When any of those things is present it is best for the fish to be put down so as to avoid any unnecessary suffering.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help to you but there are only very specific medications that treat for that type of problem. I hate having to tell anyone that their situation is hopeless, but unfortunately, the laws that control the availability of medications in some countries don't allow for anything else.

Its going to be very important for you to watch your other fish, especially the other cory catfish. This type of situation is highly contagious and since it is internal, it would be in an advanced stage such as your current sick fish before you would see evidence of it.

In the future you will want to be sure to quarantine any new fish for at least 2 - 3 wks to help ensure you are not introducing new disease into your main tank, especially with such a limited number of medications available to you. The other thing I'd like to suggest is to not get any new fish for at least a month or 2, until you know for sure all of your remaining fish are healthy and not carrying this protozoan. This will help you to avoid infecting any new, healthy fish.

Again, I'm sorry I can't help you. Good luck to you. If you need further help please just let me know and I will do what I can.

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post #18 of 23 Old 02-01-2012, 06:47 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, situation isn't good and I was almost stopped panicking.
What about WEITZ - WASSERWELT Lipofan ?

Anyway, thank you for Your help.
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post #19 of 23 Old 02-01-2012, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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I found more..

EASY LIFE - Voogle
MICROBE-LIFT - Herbtana - http://www.microbelift.com/products/...na-freshwater/
MICROBE-LIFT - Artemiss - http://www.microbelift.com/products/...ss-freshwater/

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post #20 of 23 Old 02-01-2012, 07:22 PM
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No, sorry, none of those are the right kind of medication either.

The parasitic medications you have been finding are meant to treat things such as intestinal worms and external parasites... not appropriate for internal protozoan problem.

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