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Im not sure what is wrong with my Panda Cory??
Old 08-15-2011, 06:05 AM   #11
 
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Sadly he passed away just over an hour ago. At least he wasn't suffering too long as he appeared fine up until yesterday evening. Upon close inspection his dorsal fin was in healthy condition no sign of fungus just ragged, like fin rot or he had been nibbled at. I also noticed his barbels were missing bar one. Due to that I'm relieved my other tank that is currently being cycled has a soft sand substrate. Couldn't notice anything else except he was a little thin, I'm too squeamish to open him up. Should I be worried? Given that my other fish are healthy and my parameters are fine is their anything I should be concerned about? Many thanks for your help.
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I would just maintain water quality like you have been and observe other fishes for any unusual behaivors or similar syptoms (fish getting thin).
Panda cory's in my expierience are rather delicate as far as corydoras go and seem to fair better in well established tanks with temps around 75 to 77 degrees F and a variety of foods like frozen shrimp, or shrimp pellet's,occasional blood worms, bit's of frozen krill, occasional spirulina pellet's,along with the bit's of food that they find that you are feeding your other fishes.
Hopefully, the other fishes will be fine and this was isolated incident with just the one fish.
Stay on top of weekly water changes, and tank/filter maint, and this will be the best medicine.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:52 PM   #12
 
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I would just maintain water quality like you have been and observe other fishes for any unusual behaivors or similar syptoms (fish getting thin).
Panda cory's in my expierience are rather delicate as far as corydoras go and seem to fair better in well established tanks with temps around 75 to 77 degrees F and a variety of foods like frozen shrimp, or shrimp pellet's,occasional blood worms, bit's of frozen krill, occasional spirulina pellet's,along with the bit's of food that they find that you are feeding your other fishes.
Hopefully, the other fishes will be fine and this was isolated incident with just the one fish.
Stay on top of weekly water changes, and tank/filter maint, and this will be the best medicine.
Yes, I concur. One of my 3 C. panda suddenly died after 2 years of the trio being in the tank. No idea why, it happens. Ramifications of some past issue, internal development, whatever.
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:32 PM   #13
 
Dwarf Gouramis can be bullies. I would have said it is either fin rot or fin nipping, based on the pictures. If you don't think it looks like fin rot, I'd probably blame the gourami. I've had several that I finally had to get rid of because they were too aggresive. I had one in a tank with 2 sunburst platies - he picked 1 of the platies to chase and nip at, and left the other one alone. Like the algae eater, pet stores will sometimes tell you that they are peaceful community fish and the truth is that they are not.

Since it sounds like he was lethargic and having trouble breathing and swimming at the end though, it wouldn't surprise me if he had fin rot or some other parasite that eventually got the best of him. It can be very tough to spot some of them, especially if it's only in 1 fish.

Watch your other fish carefully. If it was a parasite, chances are it will spread to the others given enough time. If you notice the same thing in any of them, treat with anti-parasite medication (just remember that catfish are scaleless and sensitive- halve the dosage).

Watch the gourami though, like I said they can be targetting bullies. His target might change now that he successfully killed his old target.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:55 PM   #14
 
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I would just maintain water quality like you have been and observe other fishes for any unusual behaivors or similar syptoms (fish getting thin).
Panda cory's in my expierience are rather delicate as far as corydoras go and seem to fair better in well established tanks with temps around 75 to 77 degrees F and a variety of foods like frozen shrimp, or shrimp pellet's,occasional blood worms, bit's of frozen krill, occasional spirulina pellet's,along with the bit's of food that they find that you are feeding your other fishes.
Hopefully, the other fishes will be fine and this was isolated incident with just the one fish.
Stay on top of weekly water changes, and tank/filter maint, and this will be the best medicine.
Thanks for the advice, Ive readjusted my tank temp to 76F it was on 74F and I have been feeding flakes, and sinking catfish pellets (although the Gourami is greedy as hell and quickly gets at those) and replacing with tubifex twice a week. I think now you have mentioned it I willt ake you up on your advice andI will be getting in a few more varieties of meatier foods in for them, afterall they are relatively cheap. I was wondering about adding vegetables to the tank, what would be suitable? Many thanks

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Yes, I concur. One of my 3 C. panda suddenly died after 2 years of the trio being in the tank. No idea why, it happens. Ramifications of some past issue, internal development, whatever.
Thank you, its very sad that he has gone because now the others dont seem to school as well, they are such little characters and my favourite fish in the tank.

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Dwarf Gouramis can be bullies. I would have said it is either fin rot or fin nipping, based on the pictures. If you don't think it looks like fin rot, I'd probably blame the gourami. I've had several that I finally had to get rid of because they were too aggresive. I had one in a tank with 2 sunburst platies - he picked 1 of the platies to chase and nip at, and left the other one alone. Like the algae eater, pet stores will sometimes tell you that they are peaceful community fish and the truth is that they are not.

Since it sounds like he was lethargic and having trouble breathing and swimming at the end though, it wouldn't surprise me if he had fin rot or some other parasite that eventually got the best of him. It can be very tough to spot some of them, especially if it's only in 1 fish.

Watch your other fish carefully. If it was a parasite, chances are it will spread to the others given enough time. If you notice the same thing in any of them, treat with anti-parasite medication (just remember that catfish are scaleless and sensitive- halve the dosage).

Watch the gourami though, like I said they can be targetting bullies. His target might change now that he successfully killed his old target.
Thank you, he is rather a bully, at the moment I havent seen any fin nipping but he is a speed demon and like to chase the platies around. I am thinking of getting some more platies for the new tank when its cycled and their transferred, as they are so shy and just hide from him. I am going to get some medications in for fin rot and internal parasites so I know i have it on hand, my nearest decent aquatic store is 36 miles away. I may consider leaving him in the tank he is in now, when the rest are moved and he can stay in there.


Thank you to everyone for your help and advice! Its priceless when it comes from those with experience. many thanks once again
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:16 PM   #15
 
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Sorry for the loss of your fish, as others have said I would make sure to keep the water conditions good, and to watch the gourami for any signs of aggression towards the other fish.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:30 PM   #16
 
just as a side note, I know your gravel seems smooth, but I can't help but wonder if its a bit big for their delicate mouths?

Once you get your tank stable again, adding more pandas shouldn't be a big problem. I have 3 different species of cories in my 55 gallon tank and they all get along quite well. They don't stay in species specific groups they all play in random groups.

My Yoyo loaches will sometimes play with them too, although they tend to play with each other more often. My ABN pleco just pushes all of them out of the way if they are where we wants to be. Not aggressively so, just a gentle nudge. They all get along very well.

Sorry, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

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Old 08-18-2011, 06:42 PM   #17
 
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just as a side note, I know your gravel seems smooth, but I can't help but wonder if its a bit big for their delicate mouths?

Once you get your tank stable again, adding more pandas shouldn't be a big problem. I have 3 different species of cories in my 55 gallon tank and they all get along quite well. They don't stay in species specific groups they all play in random groups.

My Yoyo loaches will sometimes play with them too, although they tend to play with each other more often. My ABN pleco just pushes all of them out of the way if they are where we wants to be. Not aggressively so, just a gentle nudge. They all get along very well.

Sorry, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

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Thanks hun, your advice is very welcome, especially to such a newbie to this fantastic hobby! I agree the gravel is smooth but alas it is also rather big! Ive currently got a 40 gallon cycling with soft sand (play sand texture, not the scratchy kind) I believe its 'limpopo' by unipac and is quite a nice dark brown blackish colour, purely for the corys benefit, as they are my favourite fish! Do your 3 species live well together, do they form seperate schools or school together? I ask because when the other tank is set up I would like to buy 2 more pandas to make a school of 6 and 6 cory Bandits (Metae) they look very similar
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:24 PM   #18
 
all my cories get along very well. They dont stay in their own species groups they change all the time. Sometimes they are with themselves, sometimes not. Everyone gets along very well. I've never known an aggressive cory ever. They are my favorites too..
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:28 AM   #19
 
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Yes, the main thing with corys is to have a group in the tank. I always try to acquire 5 of each species if I can; over the years this has worked well. I have over 30 in my 115g tank, and a couple species have just 1 or 2 or 3 due to various circumstances. They sometimes chum around together as a species, or in 2, 3, 4 of the species; sometimes solo; and sometimes mixed species, again as 2, 3, etc. I suspect they are more "relaxed" if they have some of their own species in the tank. In their habitat they occur in groups in the hundreds, and while there may be 2 or 3 different species, there are still hundreds of each species, and they remain in groups of their individual species within the larger shoal. Natural behaviour is always a good indicator.

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Old 08-20-2011, 08:30 PM   #20
 
My bf recently added a school of 7 pandas to his tank with 2 blue gourami and 4 bloodfin tetras.. The gourami ended up picking at the corys! The gourami have recently found a new home in my 50G with my petricolas and we have no problem.. But in the short time they were together, we ended up losing 3 pandas! :(

The other 4 are now happy with the tetras, we won't be getting any more gourami!!
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