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post #31 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 07:40 PM
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Sakura has the words mixed up but yes she knows to insulate herself. xD
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post #32 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Haha, yeah, when it comes to scientific and technical terms, I tend to get muddled. Liberal arts major here. XD

Anyway guys, here is the little guy. I visited the shop and to my utter lack of surprise, they didn't know much about him. When I asked what they knew about electrical cats the girl said, "Don't touch them." I think she was serious. The girl at the shop *thought* she might have seen another employee feed him some krill and worms. -__- So at least he doesn't need feeder fish. He's in such a small compartment because "no one can go with him." I was like, but why can't he be alone in a bigger tank? No answer to that.

And he somehow managed to turn around. After I said I'd never seen him turn around. The last 5 times I saw him, he was facing the other way.
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So, I need to make my final decision here. I'm still partially scared of getting shocked while doing water changes but at the same time, he's so ugly he's cute. So I'm leaning heavily toward getting him. If I do, I won't be able to bring him home till after June 18 because I need to get the tank ready and because my parents will be gone for a week and aren't comfortable with me messing with an electrical fish I'm not familiar with.

Sooo. *babbles on*
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post #33 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 08:12 PM
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Actually, Ohm's Law (again!) : ELECTRICAL SAFETY

And Sakura, grounding yourself wouldn't be a wise idea: you're better off "insulating" yourself against the current and providing enough resistance so that it doesn't run through your body (the less electricity running through your body the better for you).

Also, here's a link on GFCIs (which also incidentally supports the above): How Ground Fault Protection Works | DoItYourself.com

Finally, really cool fish! Sure, they're not lookers, but hard to beat the cool factor, for sure.
Idk what you are trying to say but per your link:

The principle that "current kills" is essentially correct. It is electric current that burns tissue, freezes muscles, and fibrillates hearts. However, electric current doesn't just occur on its own: there must be voltage available to motivate electrons to flow through a victim. A person's body also presents resistance to current, which must be taken into account.

Amps kill according to the paragraph, it takes a lot less amps to kill than volts. Also remember tasers put out more volts than that catfish.

Two ways to increase volts, increase amps or lower resistance
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post #34 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 08:15 PM
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Awww, adorable spots!
He's not even ugly!
His eyes look pretty good for an electric fish, usually they have tiny little eyes. Will the store hold onto him for you?
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post #35 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 08:42 PM
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I just wanted to be sure someone said it, just in case. Insulating and grounding didn't make sense together, but, I just felt it needed to be said, hah.

I say...while you're prepping the tank and everything to do as much research and preparation otherwise beforehand. The more you know, the better with any fish, but especially potentially dangerous ones. Perhaps see if you can find people with experience with them, you could even try contacting zoos and aquariums and such to see what they recommend for feeding, maintenance, et cetera.

Can never be too prepared, ya know?

Perhaps you don't need to make a decision until closer to when you'd actually be getting the fish -- use the research to help in your decision.

Tigris: my point was that it's not just the amps that play a part, which is what a lot of people take from the simplified, "it's not volts, it's amps" statement. Voltage and resistance have just as much to do with it, also from the link:

"The amount of current through a body is equal to the amount of voltage applied between two points on that body, divided by the electrical resistance offered by the body between those two points... Conversely, the more resistance a body offers to current, the slower electrons will flow for any given amount of voltage. Just how much voltage is dangerous depends on how much total resistance is in the circuit to oppose the flow of electrons."

The two go hand-in-hand, along with resistance. Comparing these fish to a taser is, in my opinion, not an accurate comparison, but my link was more to the statement made about amps versus volts. Basically, amps can kill just as much as voltage or resistance (that is, a lack of resistance).
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post #36 of 73 Old 06-07-2012, 10:37 PM
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Awww! He is so ugly he's cute. I'm a terrible enabler, so don't take my opinion ;)

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post #37 of 73 Old 06-08-2012, 12:23 AM Thread Starter
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I know, he really is so ugly he's cute. He kinda looks like a sausage or a slug. I'm about 98% sure I'm going to get him. But I couldn't find gloves at Home Depot that went up past my elbows. I'm going to look on the web for linesman's gloves but my dad warned me they're expensive (he's an engineer at a natural gas/power company). Or, what I might end up doing is getting thicker rubber gloves and then putting the ones I saw in Fosters and Smith over those, since those go up to the shoulders.

Tigris, Noah, you totally lost me with the scientific explanation. Sorry. I warned ya, liberal arts major here. ;)

Olympia, the store said if I paid for him, they'd put sold on his tank and *possibly* move him into a spare 20gal too.
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post #38 of 73 Old 06-08-2012, 06:05 AM
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That's good!
Or maybe he should stay in the compartment, the tank might star cycling with him in it. x.x

You should get him. He can help you as a moderator! "don't make me send my electric catfish over there, he will mess your computer up!" And give him the most obvious name ever, like Sparky.
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That's good!
Or maybe he should stay in the compartment, the tank might star cycling with him in it. x.x

You should get him. He can help you as a moderator! "don't make me send my electric catfish over there, he will mess your computer up!" And give him the most obvious name ever, like Sparky.
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Sparky!!! You'll be known as Sakura - the mod with the electric fish! Don't make her mad or she'll zap ya!

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