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y do pet stores do things like i've seen?!

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y do pet stores do things like i've seen?!
Old 11-16-2006, 03:32 AM   #11
 
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Such a very long post.
I agree with everything you said.

I spoke to one guy in an lfs and told him why people never bothered to stop impulse buying and why his staff would not care less about fish rather than sending out plastic bags and nets. He replied that it's just business.
He's not very concerned with fish unfortunately. I visited his shop again after almost a month. I was surprised to see one 10 gallons tank which has 10 discus. I asked him how much are they worth and he told me if I want to buy them, I must buy the whole stock at 6000 pesos. Worth a bargain but examining his stocks further, 4-5 of them are quite weak. So why sell to customers the whole package with sick discus included? He should quarantine the whole stock before considering them for sale. The discus are sick and they should be allowed to recover rather than being moved to customer's tank whose water chemistry may hardly match thus stressing the discus further. Less stress if they were in excellent health condition. Worse, in a 10 gallons tank, there were 10 discus. 4 of them are 5-6 inches in size. The rest are barely 3 inches and most of those under 3 inches are in extremely weak conditions.

Honestly, I will never buy from him his fish. Just looking at his tanks, the tanks were quite small and most of them have the Motoro stingrays, large bichirs and arowanas. Worse, the 2 giant gouramis(which have now probably been sold) did not grow for almost 4 months based on my observation. It's odd that the gouramis seem to stay the same size and not even an inch of growth.

Moreover, I saw one guy being ushered by the owner to a tank full fo pearlscale goldfish. I heard him saying his tank is barely 30-40 gallons and he bought about 20 pearlscale goldfish. It makes me faint because goldfish are so messy and in a 30-40 gallons, it would be even worse. That owner talks like he knew about fish but he is not practicing what he is preaching.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:12 AM   #12
 
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Now just think about it, what if you had said something at the time it happened? What if you had warned the customer that putting that number of goldfish into that size of a tank, they'd surely die, and quickly? You might have saved the guy some money, and you surely would have saved some lives. You also would have started a chain reaction where customers let each other know that the guy gives bad advice just to take their money.
When shopping for fish, don't be afraid to ask about feeding schedules and what they feed, when the last time the water was changed, and what their water quality levels are like. These are alll things you should know when you transfer a fish to your home tank anyways, right?
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:10 PM   #13
 
im glad to hear that there are so many other people out there that love fish so much. They are a beautiful and amazing part of nature, all so unique. I imagine it would be hard to be an employee in a fish department if you actually care. My husbands sister got a beta (i'm sure lots of betas meet a horrid end) and he went to her house one day and she said the fish "didn't do anything" and she didnt want it and was goin to let it starve! Can you imagine? Obvoiusly we took him home and he lived a very happy life for another year and a half, when he died it was clear it was because he was old not neglected. You hear of people buying betas or as they call them "siamese fighting fish" just to see them "fight". I can also just imagine how many kids saw Finding Nemo and nagged their parents until they got one... more then likley with disasterous results. It's nice to get a kid interested in something but if you're going to help them learn properly you should know the right things yourself. My kids are interested in fish and since we rarley lose a fish they really notice when one's gone. Hopefully I can teach them a proper respect for animals.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:21 PM   #14
 
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During the nemo craze we had a lot of problems at the store. I used to have to refuse sales and argue with customers, all of whom wanted to keep nemo in a bowl. Even after explaining that it was impossible to do, many wanted to argue about it and insist on trying it anyways. It was simply crazy. I could be rich if I'd have had a penny for each customer who told me it was their money to spend/waste any way they wanted to, or those that were vulgar because I refused them, telling them that it might be their money, but it was my fish. Unfortunately, not all stores faught so hard to save the fish, and many many clownfish died because of that movie. It still amazes me at the number of people who saw the movie and still didn't understand that there was a huge size difference between nemo and his dad.
Your betta story is also not uncommon, and it happens with many types of fish every day.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:15 PM   #15
 
Thats the problem when you work for a LFS you know the fish will be harmed or die, but you really can't stop it.
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:16 PM   #16
 
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You maybe can't stop ALL of it, but there are ways to stop a good part of it, just that most people who work in the LFS's either don't know or don't care enough to try.
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:40 PM   #17
 
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dawn, it just occured to me that although our post count is similar, in truth, you posted an equivalent of 3000 posts...
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:18 PM   #18
 
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:D How do you figure 3000?
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:03 AM   #19
 
Well you know some people should really care more. We are taking fish and corals out of our ocean, and in the process are damaging the environment. If there are people who continue to pruchase and try to care for saltwater(or even freshwater) and do not properly know how to care for it, thats one more fish comming out the ocean. To many people think oh its just a fish and do not realize where it is comming from and the effects of it dying. With time there will be major affects and we belive that saltwater fish and corals comming from the ocean will not be sold. So hopefully for the people who respact and actually care for what comes out the ocean there will be tighter regulations.

I i believe that some fish stores should not sell saltwater fish or corals if they are not going to care for them properly. Where we live now there are many LFSs whos tanks are very grungy and covered with algea. But there are still some here who maintain clean environments for thier fish. But it is a shame that fish have to suffer for the lack of responsibility of the owner.
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:13 AM   #20
 
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If you wan to help buy only MAC certified fish from MAC certified shops.
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