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Would this be possible?
Old 09-14-2010, 03:07 PM   #1
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Would this be possible?

I'm playing around with the idea of a small invert/reef tank (When I say playing around, I mean I won't get around to it for years...)

Nano aquarium (smallest possible)

CFLs 6500k lighting with an actinic bulb, or just a 50/50.

Purple and Yellow Nudibranch
Pom Pom Crab Lybia tessellata
Eucidaris tribuloides
Peppermint Shrimp Lysmata wurdemanni complex
Bright Orange Cluster Feather Dusters (Bispira brunnea)
Flourescent Green Feather Dusters "Bispira sp."
Variety of Mushroom corals
Saltwater Fern Plant
Halimeda sp.

Thinking, About 16 pounds of live rock, and 15-20Ib's of live sand...

What kind of filter would I need, or would the live rock/sand and plants be enough?
Would an airstone provide enough water movement?

Which of my "wish list" would devour the plants?

I was thinking of a 10 gallon, but after looking at that long list (unless some aren't usable) I can't see it fitting in less than a 15 or 20.

I don't have any interest in fish, but I would imagine there would be a lot of movement in the tank...

Would an anemone be possible, or are they too difficult?
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:43 PM   #2
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I'm not so much the invert guy, so I'll someone else address the livestock question. But in terms of filtraiton, if you do a 20 gallon tank I would personally use a small hang on protein skimmer. It doesn't have to be much of anything fancy, but I do find the advantages to far outweigh the cost.

If you do anything smaller than 20 gallons, then I would just use a hang on filter for water movement and a bag of activated carbon for organic absorption. The live rock and sand will handle the rest.
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:11 PM   #3
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I do have a HOB rated at 50 gallons, but I was hoping I could just use a really powerful airpump and airstone for water movement...

Maybe one of the ones shaped like a volcano with a red LED- I can pretend it's an underwater vent. :P

This is also a bump... I'm wondering. :)

I'd prefer a 10G, and just cut out a lot of the inverts... I'll probably go with just 6500k lighting, with an actinic tube for a couple hours in the evening...
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:39 PM   #4
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that lighting will really limit the corals you can keep... in fact nothing with any real color to it will do well in that light (i tried for a while and everything stayed brown or turned brown fairly fast) as for the air stone you dont really see them used in salt as they make salt creep a real pain in the butt.. the HOB for 50 would be great on a 10 gallon and if you so desired you could Modify it to be a refugium for some Cheato down the road for extra natural filtration. :)
all told it is doable
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:03 PM   #5
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So corals need actinic?
I read on a topic that corals grow better with 6500k, they just aren't colorful...

How many inverts could I fit in a 10? Any of them impossible?
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:13 PM   #6
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i dont think i would do the nudi. the actinic will make the coral colors pop. growth would be good under 6500 but color would be completly brown. you'd prob. be better off with atleast a 10k bulb for some kind of color to the tank, or the 6500k with another bulb thats actinic. the pencil urchin will knock any corals over, and possibly eat some of the macros you will be keeping. feather dusters in my tank come and go but the same ones dont seem to last more then id say a year. def. avoid coco worms, atleast in this tank as they seem harder to keep.
i also say go with a hang on filter for flow but keep it empty. a small clump of chaeto may be a good idea for the display as you'll have other macros as well. maybe a bag of carbon thats changed/cleaned frequent in the HOB.
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