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Old 01-16-2008, 02:12 PM   #11
 
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Because there is no way to know what is in the drinking water, how they purified it, etc... there are some things that RO units will pull out that standard carbon purification can't pull out.... your best bet is to stick with RO water to avoid countless problems later. (and a lot of money)
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:55 PM   #12
 
i`m starting my cycle in exactly 2 weeks from today, and i`m already brainstorming with ideas! is it possible to somehow join two aquariums, maybe with a pipe, each with its own filter system etc. ? :o as in to make your tank gallons bigger, kinda like a sump? but not a sump ? :D
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:53 AM   #13
 
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The only practical way is to do a sump system, or to maintain 2 tanks with one above the other (doesn't work well for large tanks and can make maintenance very difficult) I have a series of nano tanks I am planning to do that with, and then run a sump inline with them. There are still some kinks to work out of it, but to do this with anything over 20 gallons, I just couldn't see it. The work, the maintenance, the time to do it, wouldn't be worth the effort in end result. Also, remember, if you're wanting it for filtration purposes, each tank inline with animals in it will have a waste level of its own to contribute... The proper way to balance it would be to add the sump to the whole thing... so you're still talking about needing a sump of some kind.
What I am creating will be a shelf long row of 5 - 7 gallon invert tanks, each hooked up to each other in a row, with a 55 - 75 gallon sump system below. In the sump will be live rock, macro algae, live sand, sand sifting starfish, and light to grow the macro algae. The hardest part of setting this up is in drilling the tanks. They have to be glass, and not tempered glass. I have found a 7 gallon glass mini bow front I like a lot, and would withstand the plumbing. I will use pvc pipe, not sure yet what size, large enough to allow good flow, short enough to not slow the flow. Each opening in the tanks will be covered with some type of screening. I'm considering working with a fine grade of plastic canvas and some silicone to seal it in tight. I have not decided yet if I will connect from side to side, or take it to the back and run it from tank to tank from there. The sump will also have uv sterilizer and protein skimmer installed. My plans are to keep some of the small inverts that don't know how to play nice with others. These are research tanks, meant for study. and the animals inside will rotate according to the topic at a given time. To allow me a quarantine in any individual tank, I may also install some type of shut off unit, so if I find a problem in one I can shut them all down, or if I bring something new home I can isolate one tank... Each tank will have to have 1 powerhead, properly placed to force flow through to the next tank.

While I wouldn't advise doing this with a large tank, I also wouldn't advise doing this without a lot of backup resources. (quarantine tanks for sure, in case there was a problem, and I am already familiar with the supplies and proper way to seal tanks, but for the average person, I say take it to someone who can show you hands on, because if you screw it up, it can be expensive to fix and make one heck of an expensive mess to clean up)
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:44 AM   #14
 
i have no idea what glass my tank is made out of, but this sounds like work overload :p i have another question, in september i`m going abroad - again i`m looking far forward. i`m gonna be away from september to december then from december to easter and easter to summer. this means my parents will be looking after the tank ( feeding and cleaning). Whats the minimum amount of cleaning that can be done, assuming my tank is stocked decently?

42 gallons
2 occelaris
1 neon goby
1 blenny (no idea what yet :P )
3 cleaner shrimp
2 fire shrimp
1 firefish(maybe)

If that counts as decent
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:10 PM   #15
 
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i have no idea what glass my tank is made out of, but this sounds like work overload :p i have another question, in september i`m going abroad - again i`m looking far forward. i`m gonna be away from september to december then from december to easter and easter to summer. this means my parents will be looking after the tank ( feeding and cleaning). Whats the minimum amount of cleaning that can be done, assuming my tank is stocked decently?

42 gallons
2 occelaris
1 neon goby
1 blenny (no idea what yet :P )
3 cleaner shrimp
2 fire shrimp
1 firefish(maybe)

If that counts as decent
Minimum amount to expect if the tank is lightly stocked is a water change once/wk about 25 - 30%, filter maintenance (cleaning salt creep and clearing any blockages) average once - twice/month, lights can be put on timers to keep them on a regular cycle, and a skimmer would need the cup cleaned whenever it fills.... no way to know how fast it will fill, but the fewer animals the longer it would take to fill... and of course feeding the tank daily.
If you plan to limit yoursef to appropriate in that size of a tank, I would skip either the blenny or goby, and limit the number of shrimp (not a good idea to mix those species of shrimp together, they tend to kill each other quickly). I would also skip the fire fish. If you work with the stock you listed here, you are going to have problems, even if you are there to clean it daily. That's a lot of fish in a very small tank. Ocellaris, if there are 2, you can expect a pair, females reach about 5 inches, males about 3. The neon gobys do much better in a small school of 3 - 5, which you don't have room for, and the blenny can reach 5 - 6 inches, depending on which type you choose. The shrimp would not have enough territory to live peacefully mixing the species, but 2 shrimp of the same species would be practical.

Always remember, the fewer animals the less work. The more animals, the more work, and always prepare for adult sizes, because this will happen quickly in most species.
Hope this helps!
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:10 PM   #16
 
yeah it does, thanks alot :) i`ll rethink the stock list but my GF insists on the ocellaris :p she finds them so damn cute :o i`d rather just a maroon tbh ! :<
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:06 PM   #17
 
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Remember that maroon clowns are super aggressive and very territorial, and would not fit well with the rest of your options. I agree with the GF, if a clown fish is a must, stick to the ocellaris. Another reason for this is that the ocellaris stay smaller than the maroons. Average size for ocellaris would be 4 - 5 inches for a female, 3 inches for a male. With a maroon, you're looking at 6 - 7 inches, 3 - 4 for a male. In your size of tank, a pair of maroon clowns would be a full tank. 1 maroon clown isn't going to mix with much in that size of a tank... so you eliminate most of your options that way.

I was reading back, wanted to comment on something I missed a few posts ago.... your mention of the puffer fish. For as wonderful as they are, the only real option you have in that tank is the valentinim which also would decrease your population of other fishes. I'm not sure I would suggest mixing a valentini puffer in that size of a tank with ocellaris clowns (and surely not a maroon clown). Your waste levels would become an issue pretty fast, which would require you to do regular checks on the tank, and to test water at least every few wks. The puffers are messy eaters, which increases waste very quickly... the valentini is no exception to that. Just didn't want to see you get hopes up and to try something that in your situation has little chance of working. I would wait for a larger tank before investing in a puffer.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:36 AM   #18
 
i was actually debating the valentini for a long long time, and i still dont know what on earth will happen there :p the problem is however nice a valentini may be he is very likely to destroy my shrimp! So i decided to wait a while and go for a 30 gallon (or maybe abit bigger) just for him or maybe just one or 2 bottom dwellers for him too.

Scrap the fish list i set before so far its

2x occelaris clowns :D we`ll work from there :D
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:06 AM   #19
 
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Sounds great. A good idea for searching out a bottom dweller for your valentini might be to begin looking at bottom dwelling fishes, like the diamond goby. With enough rock work to form caves and tunnels, that would be a much more likely mix while still serving the same functions.

As for the other tank, with the clowns... did you have ideas on anything that appeals to you thus far?
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #20
 
well- clowns,
orange spotted goby looks good.
also i thought of scrapping the gobies and going for colours - lemonpeel angelfish

my choices are limited atm and i gotta run by the LFS see what they got

assuming it was your tank, what would you put in it?
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