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post #1 of 18 Old 12-25-2008, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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What about this Fish Combo?

I have a 75 gal. FOWLER tank and I despite recommendations to the contrary, I have the following fish in it for the last 5 weeks with NO problems so far.
1) 3" Niger Trigger
2) 3" Blue Throat Trigger
3) 3" Maroon Clown
4) 3" Yellow Tang
5) 3" Panther Grouper

The Niger Trigger and Clown were added together, then the Grouper, Blue throat, and Tang were added a week later. They all swim peacfully around each other with NO aggressivness, even during feeding time. The last fish I plan on adding is a clown trigger, probably in the next week or so. The fish will be in the 3" range and hopefully will settle in with the rest of the tank inhabitants nicely. I know I'm pushing my luck, but I feel that I have beaten the odds so far. Hopefully as they grow these fish will remain peacefull toward each other. By then I plan on upgrading my tank to at least a 125gal. to accomodate the larger fish.
I try to maintain a healthy system with a 15-18 gal. weekly water change with RO water. All levels are reading zero across the board with the exception of Nitrates which are about 10ppm.

I just thought I would pass this info along so that others might feel more inclined to try different combinations of fish without the preconceived fears.
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post #2 of 18 Old 12-26-2008, 12:58 AM
hmm it should work since you have triggers already in there and they are not showing aggression.

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post #3 of 18 Old 12-26-2008, 02:26 AM
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Since you do plan on getting a 125G, then I would say a small Clown Trigger, with the rest of the fish, should be fine for a while.
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post #4 of 18 Old 12-26-2008, 08:10 AM
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wait until they grow.
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post #5 of 18 Old 12-27-2008, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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wait until they grow.
I know this is the only problem I forsee. However, I believe by then I will have the larger tank set up, and hopefully if I have to sell one or two of them, or even give them away, I will be able to find a good home.
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post #6 of 18 Old 12-29-2008, 11:50 AM
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I don't think adding another trigger is a good idea. Triggers do not get along with each other. You do have one of the mildest triggers (the Niger), but you also plan on getting one of the most aggressive (the Clown Trigger). NOT a good idea. I think it's only a matter of time before one of these Triggers snaps. It's not IF, but WHEN.

Oh and 5 weeks is not a lot of time at all.

Also, a 125 for the Clown Trigger is too small. These guys get HUGE.
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I don't think adding another trigger is a good idea. Triggers do not get along with each other. You do have one of the mildest triggers (the Niger), but you also plan on getting one of the most aggressive (the Clown Trigger). NOT a good idea. I think it's only a matter of time before one of these Triggers snaps. It's not IF, but WHEN.

Oh and 5 weeks is not a lot of time at all.

Also, a 125 for the Clown Trigger is too small. These guys get HUGE.
thanks for the advice, I will most likely follow it, at least for now!
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post #8 of 18 Old 01-01-2009, 08:21 PM
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The real question is why you would risk the lives of your fish, despite the fact that experienced hobbyists are telling you these combinations don't work in the long term? There is simply no need to try this for yourself. Even worse is that you are encouraging people to ignore the advice of those with more experience and try these combinations for themselves.

Success in the marine hobby is judged by long term health. These animals are not capable of thriving in this environment. You will learn this lesson the hard way. You will wake up one day, or perhaps come home from work, and every fish will be dead with the exception of your Blue Throat Trigger.

How do I know this? Because your experience is not unusual. Every year there are dozens of people who post these type of threads. And every year these people come back a few months later and say they learned their lesson. Time and time again these animals die for no reason. I can't begin to tell you how many time i've had this exact conversation.
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The real question is why you would risk the lives of your fish, despite the fact that experienced hobbyists are telling you these combinations don't work in the long term? There is simply no need to try this for yourself. Even worse is that you are encouraging people to ignore the advice of those with more experience and try these combinations for themselves.

Success in the marine hobby is judged by long term health. These animals are not capable of thriving in this environment. You will learn this lesson the hard way. You will wake up one day, or perhaps come home from work, and every fish will be dead with the exception of your Blue Throat Trigger.

How do I know this? Because your experience is not unusual. Every year there are dozens of people who post these type of threads. And every year these people come back a few months later and say they learned their lesson. Time and time again these animals die for no reason. I can't begin to tell you how many time i've had this exact conversation.
I appreciate your position on this topic, and perhaps I am being a bit naive, but in the short term this has worked for me. You mention the long term and this not working, but I have had experience with this exact combo of fish about 12 years ago in a 55 gal. aquarium. They were living and thriving for over 5 years together. I finally had to break the aquarium down and sell the fish to a local FS because I was temporarily moving into a small apartment and could not take the tank. So I have had experience with this combo before. Perhaps it was an exception that they all thrived, but I was willing to try it again. Although I am fairly new to this Forum and my latest tank set up is only a few months old, I have had extensive experience in this hobby. My fish are well cared for, fed properly, and water changes performed every week. I follow ALL the rules of the hobby to the letter. I believe in providing the best care for animals that I chose to purchase, by sparing no expense. Since I believe that this Forum is a way that we can all learn from one another by sharing knowledge and experiences, I chose to share my experience with this Fish combo. Perhaps some of the "myths" of this hobby can be dispelled by people "pushing the envelope" a little. My intentions are not to put my animals in danger in any way. I monitor them constantly and have noticed NO aggression from any of them so far. Thank you for the responce and I look forward to a continued dialogue on this subject.
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post #10 of 18 Old 01-06-2009, 12:15 AM
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i just find it hard to believe you are out for the best in the fish when you housed so many large fish in a 55 gallon tank for 5 years. all of them except the maroon would not be able to turn around in a 55, then we subtract the space the live rock takes up and your looking at very little room.
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