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Old 04-14-2009, 10:04 PM   #21
 
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Ok, I am only looking into doing a 40 gallon set up, nothing fancy, this is a starter tank, Im not going to be going all crazy about this tank. once i can manage this tank, in a few years il upgrade and go all crazy. I found a powerhead for 30, 20 lb sand for 30, 7.99 per lb for live rock, havnt priced salt yet, 30 for a skimmer, and it looks like i found a tank with all accesories on a website that i can buy for 200, after that all i need is some fish. i have everything pretty much figured out. so all i need is to figure out the water. this is a new tank, so i dont need a quarentine, i am going to get the tank and the rock first, and cylcle the tank with just water and rock to further cure it, once thats done, i will e adding in the sand, then cycle that for a while, then finally after its all set up i will put in the fish. SO all i need is to take care of the water issue.

it is for sure possible to have a setup on the cheaper scale but your not going to want to skimp on the skimmer. i strongly suggest reading reviews of brands and models online. some are complete garbage as others are golden. the purpose of a QT is to lower chances of introducing anything into your main tank, adding fish from the start would be introducing any possible disease which defeats the purpose for future additions.

i strongly suggest finding a local reefing club in your area. these are great to pick up used equipment cheaper, meet people and learn new things.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:27 AM   #22
 
I dont have any reefing clubs in my area, my area is in nowheresville.so im sol on that. I know a qt is good, but as its a new tank, theres nothing to quarantine, if the fish are sick, then the fish i buy them with will already be infected, or at least already exposed. i know that if meds are needed to treat it (like if they had ich) then i would have to transfer the firsh to a qt so that the meds dont hurt the LS and LR. if i had an established tank, then id qt all new stuff. i do that already with m freshwater tank.
I also just want to point out for everyone though, because we were discussing the use of water, and not using tap, that my lfs uses tap water on all their fish, including saltwater, and there fish all seem just fine.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:45 PM   #23
 
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I am sure that they condition the water with chemicals, and if not, from what i've read, they won't last long in a tank like that but they arent worried as the fish shouldnt be there that long anyways. Plus, the first LFS I went to gave me the worst advice on earth so I would take what they say/do with a grain of salt...

The guy sold me some pouch of who knows what and told me to run it through a canister filter for 3 weeks for the tank to cycle...The first thing I was told on this site was canister filters are terrible for marine tanks, and every document I have read concurs...
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:06 PM   #24
 
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none the less, don't skimp on your skimmer, it is the backbone of all Marine water filtration.

You still, IMHO, MUST use RO water, it is as pure as water gets and if you want to have a stable, controlled environment for your tank to thrive in, RO is the only way
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:14 PM   #25
 
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Ok, I am only looking into doing a 40 gallon set up, nothing fancy, this is a starter tank, Im not going to be going all crazy about this tank. once i can manage this tank, in a few years il upgrade and go all crazy. I found a powerhead for 30, 20 lb sand for 30, 7.99 per lb for live rock, havnt priced salt yet, 30 for a skimmer, and it looks like i found a tank with all accesories on a website that i can buy for 200, after that all i need is some fish. i have everything pretty much figured out. so all i need is to figure out the water. this is a new tank, so i dont need a quarentine, i am going to get the tank and the rock first, and cylcle the tank with just water and rock to further cure it, once thats done, i will e adding in the sand, then cycle that for a while, then finally after its all set up i will put in the fish. SO all i need is to take care of the water issue.
I think my 40G, with the added money I spent on my 10G on everything that I brought over, has costed me....

$1600?

I am 14 and have bought everything myself except for the tank, lights, sand, and powerheads because they were Christmas Presents. Also the Rock and Skimmer because I had gift cards. Since you are in college, and on a budget, will be VERY difficult to afford.

And let me say this. Don't use tap until you know what is in it. This means phosphates, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, pH level, Chlorine, magnesium, hardness, just to name a few parameters.

Why not just get water from the LFS? I do it and it costs me $2.50 every 3 weeks.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:59 PM   #26
 
My lfs doesnt sell it, and the closest store that does, it two hours away. Besides, I already know wahts in my tap water, I had it tested when i moved in, and it works great in my freshwater tank. not to mention, with the proper chemcials, all that crap can be removed. and Although I plan on spending money to do this, I have no need to break the bank. I shop around, i look, i research befor ei buy anything, just like im doing with this forum. I have already bought the 75 gallon tank, with stand, and filter, and heater, and lights, and deco stuff, for 200. I may need to buy a new filter, which is like 60, I need two powerheads, so, 80ish, give or take, and the live sand, which willl depend on which store i go to, and then the lve rock, which im starting out with about 75 bucks worth, then once my tax refun comes back, 150 more. i dont know where yu spend 1600, but thats alot of money. the fish will be added in as time goes by, check by check, its a process.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:25 PM   #27
 
I don't see where you don't get 1600...

On 10G:
Lights: $100
25lbs of rock: $150
Sand: $20
Clownfish: $60
YWG: $20
Corals: AT LEAST $350.
Total= $700.

Subtract $20 from not using the sand, 50 from not using all my rock, $30 from a lost Clown, and $50 from corals not brought over. So $550 already invested in the 40G.

Tank: $100
Lights, Sand, Powerheads, Stand: $440
Skimmer: $170
50lbs of Rock: $220
A Clownfish: $30
12 Turbo Snails, 5 Hermits: $35
40G of water to start off: $40

Oh, $1510. But there is still plenty of corals and fish in my future.

What are the levels in your tap water? Saying "they are fine" means nothing.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:33 PM   #28
 
See im not b uying corals, so thats 350 400 right thre, the tank i bought, comes with lights, al of them, so i need those, Im not gona get clownfish right away, damsels, which are alot cheaper, I spent 200 on th tank and stand, and lights, and filter...
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:46 PM   #29
 
I dont need the ultimate skimmer right off the bat. corals are not a requirement in every tank. I am also not buying all that rock at once. I will buy about 25 lbs to start with, then add more as time goes by, until i ave enough for the size of the tank. You dont need snails and hermits immediatly. I can buy a 45 lb of sand for 40 bucks, and 25 lbs of rock for 40, which isnt even the poundage i plan on buying.Two power heads, 80 to 100. this is a starter tank, not a ultra fantastic one. I dont need to spend sooo much money on setting this up. Once im used to it, then i will upgrade stuff.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:51 PM   #30
 
You do not want to get rock at different intervals. They need to be added all at the same time unless you like cloudy tanks with bad stuff floating everywhere and tanks recycling.

You need a skimmer right after the cycle.

And one damsel in a tank means that is the only fish you will have, or other fish that are dead or very injured. They are the devil's fish.

You still didn't tell us the parameters in your tap water...
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