I am from India, kolkata, the temperature here is 31 Degree celcius, i have new 29 gallon tank filled with saltwater from last 2 weeks, i have added last week some live rocks from my petshop which he said were cured, after smelling i found very light smell almost nothing, but after adding them in my tank, i have found that my water is stinking whenever i put my hand in the water, my hand stinks badly, but the water is ok when u smell it by putting the nose above the tank. Yesterday my nitrate is 10mg/l, my ammonia test is also 0 , and ph is around 6.5 to 7. No fish is added yet, i have 1 internal filter and 1 powerhead. I have the lights but i am switching them on for 3-4 hrs. every evening. I have changed 20% water today and the bad smell has gone down a bit. . My salinity is 1.022 (earlier it was 1.028 in 32 degree celcius temperature and I am using bottled mineral water and my home Kent RO water purifier.
Plz help what is wrong why my water is stinking. Is my live rock dead. Should i replace more water.
White spots found on both butterfly & damsel after coming back from office, gave them a medicine dip as told by my LFS. Let see tmrw. Damn it brothers. I am so sad. What will happen next?
Well if you don't get rid of the Ich, your fish will die, and In my opion, if they pull through, I would get rid of the butterfly fish until you have a larger tank.......and get a fish suited to that size aquarium.
Garlic itself is not an anti-parasite medication, just as Vitamin C is not an anti-flu medication for humans. Garlic boosts a fish's immune system, helping it fight off infection and parasites. Also, feeding foods rich in oils helps a fish build it's slime coat. This has been noted as yet another preventative measure of fighting disease in the home aquarium. Another benefit of Garlic is it increases a fishes attraction to the proccessed foods we feed them. Fish are more likely to eat and a well-fed fish equals a healthy fish.
Ask anyone who religously uses garlic about the health of their system. Twice a day I drop a small amount of Omega One pellets with a garlic ingredient. I haven't had an Ich outbreak since I started doing this.
If Ich is in your system, you can use a UV sterilizer to kill the waterbourne parasites. But the infected fish (depending on how infected) are infected fish. UV's don't pull the Ich off the fish. How many spots are on the fish? How is his breathing? The further along the infection, the less likely he will make it.
Another preventative measure is purchasing a Cleaner Shrimp. These pick Ich and other parasites off the fish and help to avoid larger outbreaks. But again, too late is too late.
Medications like Pimafix and Copper Sulfates only stress the fish out. If your going to do Hyposalinity, you need to set up a seperate tank and Q these fish in a 1.013 water for a few weeks, then slowly raise the salinity until it is back to your Display salinity. But don't put any livestock back into the display for 90 DAYS.
Lastly, if a fish dies of Ich in your aquarium, get him out IMMEDIATELY!!! Once the Ich has killed the fish, it will be looking for another host.
Butterfly died this morning. I immediately took it out on my fishbowl with some tank water, while he was lying flat and gasping on the tank. he died on fishbowl. i feel like killing my LFS.
No Way bro I am with the thread. yes very much.
Garlic fine bro, from day you Pasfur said to give it, i have started, though home garlic mixed with fish food twice everyday. Damsel spots have come down a bit, he is having home ginger mixed fish food. But colour of damsel has gone down a bit. But rubbing his body on sands and rocks most of the times.
Pasfur reply :Protien Skimmer Installed yesterday night though nothing brown is coming out yet. Okay Bro, No Siphon (Never). Plz don't get lost bro it was just a mistake, i got fooled by my LFS which most new beginners get.
Garlic products not available here so i am mixing fish food with home garlic paste.
No Way bro I am with the thread. yes very much.
All test will be repeated this Sunday and some Water replacement will be done.
Now what do i do with the Yellow Tail Damsel now. He is alone Should i buy a quarantine tank or a big bucket would do? Do i need to remove him from the display tank?
This should be fine as long as there are no preservatives or foreign additives. Sometimes I chop up fresh garlic real fine to almost a paste to add to frozen food if I'm out of paste.
Now what do i do with the Yellow Tail Damsel now. He is alone Should i buy a quarantine tank or a big bucket would do? Do i need to remove him from the display tank?
If he's the only fish in there, leave him in there. DO NOT treat with any copper or other chemical medication, as this will stay in your system even after you think it's gone. Keep garlic feeding and wait at least 90 Days after you have seen the last white spot disappear to put another fish in the Display. On the "should I buy a quarantine tank" question, the answer is YES. You will need this for any other fish you buy to avert this same disaster in the future.
p.s. Throw a UV sterilizer in your display tank to kill any waterbourne Ich.
p.s. Throw a UV sterilizer in your display tank to kill any waterbourne Ich.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply.
UV Sterilizer are very expensive here. What if i go with a quarantine tank and put my damsel over thr for a couple of weeks with hyposalinity. It will be a cheaper option and the ich will also die the main tank without fish for a couple of weeks.
Damsel colour is coming back, i think so...not confirmed.
Time out! This is a myth. A couple weeks is not nearly long enough for ich to die off. Recent studies are pointing to a period of nearly 90 days without a host.
I would leave the Damsel in the display. You need to get a Q tank up and running anyhow, but there is no reason to move a single fish to a Q tank, introducing ich into the Q system.
Well i have a small room. Should i go for it or not reply fast, a very small room i have and my wife will kill me if she finds a QT.(one more tank in my room).:twisted:
Does a UV destroys beneficial bactria alongwith the bad ones.
What should i do plz reply fast. i can get the tank tomorrow only otherwise wait for a week.
Bought Quarantine Tank of 11.5 gallon.
Bought 2 thermostat heaters 1 for big tank. 1 for qt tank.
Installed a heater in the tank with the 28 deg celcius temp. i.e 82.4 degree farhenhiet. Please note that previously no heater was installed on my tank as India is hot and humid but i used to swith on the A.C. at night and that time the temp used to come down so i decided to buy a heater.
But now since winter is coming in Kolkata(India), i have installed a heater at 28 deg centigrade. The winter will start from December 09 till January 2010. India is hot and humid but winter stays for approx 2 to 3 months.
Damsel is doing good fed on home garlic mixed with fish food coz Garlic based fish not yet available here. Might get by the end of this week.
Hope everybody is happy.
One more thing i want to clarify that here in kolkata you dont get clown fish all the times, when it comes it gets sold too fast. So if i get a couple of ocellaris i will buy and put them in QT for a couple of months.
My Protien Skimmer is like Nona Air Stone Protein Skimmer. Actually this is what is available here. costed me $14 round about 700 indian rupees frommy LFS. Sufficient for 29 gallon i think.
Since Morning Damsel is behaving strangely rubbing his body everywhere and going in front of the powerhead frequently though i couldn't make out any white spots.
I think the ich is back. It might be the 2nd cycle of the ich.
Pasfur why dont you allow me to put the damsel in quarantine tank for sometime. Will it be suitable to go for hyposalintity. or should i keep on feeding home made garlic mixed with fish food in the main tank only as you said earlier.
Please reply fast as the white spots might come back when i reach home tonight from my office.
I see no reason to introduce ich into the Q tank. The behavior you are watching is expected. I have very little doubt that ich will make an appearance again as the Damsel fights off this infection. Personally, I would not be concerned at this point.
Moving the fish to the Q tank would be a stressful experience. Plus, the Q tank does not have a mature biofilter yet.
Pasfur is right. It is better to see him scratching than to stay in one spot laborously breathing. Keep up with Garlic feeding and keep the parameters stable in your tank. What kind of foods are you feeding? Make sure you keep your feeding pattern regular. I prefer to have my wife tap in a few pellets when the lights come on, I throw a little frozen food in when I get home, and tap a few pellets in at night. This would be overkill for one fish of course, so maybe a couple of pellets once a day, and maybe frozen or fresh every other day, for example. Keeping your fish on a schedule will help him stay healthy, IMO.
I did. I think it should do the job. I see it sits directly in the aquarium and uses the airstone to produce the bubbles for foam fractitioning. Is there an adjustment on the airstone to increase or decrease bubble production?
That skimmer is certainly smaller than what I'd normally recommend, but if you are sticking with a light fish load and very hardy fish, you should be fine.
plz answer this one : how do i start the Qt. is thr any link what do i need for a qt apart from tank and saltwater.
I cant afford more than this Protein Skimmer bro...
Mine would be :
Clown (Ocellaris), Chromis, Gobies, Psudochromis, 1 long tentacle anemone,
(and later i will just try to squeeze in a red star fish if u guys allow).
Test results :
Ammonia : 0 ppm
Nitrate : 25 ppm (Water replaced 10 %)
Calcium : 460 ppm
Kh : 9 dkh
Salinity 1.023
Temp : 85 deg farhenheit.
ph : 7.8 (added ph buffer 4 times but ph is not coming up it remains at 7.8.)
This is the italian product which is available here in India http://www.prodacinternational.it/english/index.php Why the ph buffer is not working even after 4 dosing after every 2 hrs as instructed in the product leaflet)?
How r the results.
I can see lots of green hair type of algae on all my rocks .
UV Streilizer will be future purchase in December.
This skimmer will be very dependant on the level of the water in the tank. You have to make sure that if you lose water from evaporation that you replace it regularly. It looks like the water in your tank is a little below the line as it is.
As far as pH: Buy a new test kit. Maybe the one you have is faulty. All other results look fine; temp looks a little high. Are you dosing calcium & Alk? What do you use?
As far as the Algae: You need to get more flow directed at your rocks. When they get dirty (detritus and silt settle on the surface), it makes a good place for algae to grow. Also, check your source water, is it high in Phosphate?
i have 2 ph test kits both are giving same results.
Okay for rocks water flow. i would do that.:lol:
What abt QT how do i start that ? I have an internal filter in the cupboard (should i wash it and start using it), the last one pasfur knows about it.
How to chk Phosphate wihtout buying any kit?
BTW I am removing the zeolite stones and ceramic rings from the top filter, leaving just the white sponge foam from tonight.(As Pasfur prescribed earlier). They might increase phosphate which might lead to a lot of hair algae.
Or i will remove the top filter itself (Plz help) which creates a lot of problem to open the top cover and accidently twice switched on the power which made all my electrical outlets wet at the back of my tank.
Actually, the Live Rock, Live Sand and Protein Skimmer are suffecient filtration for a 29 gallon tank. The HOT filter you are using most likely will just trap detritus and that eventually breaks down into Nitates and Phosphates. This is one of the causes of nuisance algaes as they feed on these nutrients. You will also have a hard time maintaing proper Alk and Calcium, as these nutrients intefere with the buffer system.
The only way I know how to test for Phosphates is with a test kit. I had a hard time finding a Phosphate test kit on the shelf here in CT, I can imagine how hard it will be in India... What is your source water? Is it Well-water, or city processed tap?
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