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Old 10-28-2009, 06:10 PM   #91
 
Well if you don't get rid of the Ich, your fish will die, and In my opion, if they pull through, I would get rid of the butterfly fish until you have a larger tank.......and get a fish suited to that size aquarium.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:39 AM   #92
 
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Hey Pasfur,

They say garlic is not effective with scientific reasons :

Please read :

http://web.archive.org/web/200805140...index.phpasfur

Only Hyposalinity and Copper Sulphate works.

Plz help bro.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:24 AM   #93
 
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Garlic works as a great preventative measure.

Garlic itself is not an anti-parasite medication, just as Vitamin C is not an anti-flu medication for humans. Garlic boosts a fish's immune system, helping it fight off infection and parasites. Also, feeding foods rich in oils helps a fish build it's slime coat. This has been noted as yet another preventative measure of fighting disease in the home aquarium. Another benefit of Garlic is it increases a fishes attraction to the proccessed foods we feed them. Fish are more likely to eat and a well-fed fish equals a healthy fish.

Ask anyone who religously uses garlic about the health of their system. Twice a day I drop a small amount of Omega One pellets with a garlic ingredient. I haven't had an Ich outbreak since I started doing this.

If Ich is in your system, you can use a UV sterilizer to kill the waterbourne parasites. But the infected fish (depending on how infected) are infected fish. UV's don't pull the Ich off the fish. How many spots are on the fish? How is his breathing? The further along the infection, the less likely he will make it.

Another preventative measure is purchasing a Cleaner Shrimp. These pick Ich and other parasites off the fish and help to avoid larger outbreaks. But again, too late is too late.

Medications like Pimafix and Copper Sulfates only stress the fish out. If your going to do Hyposalinity, you need to set up a seperate tank and Q these fish in a 1.013 water for a few weeks, then slowly raise the salinity until it is back to your Display salinity. But don't put any livestock back into the display for 90 DAYS.

Lastly, if a fish dies of Ich in your aquarium, get him out IMMEDIATELY!!! Once the Ich has killed the fish, it will be looking for another host.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:04 PM   #94
 
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Do i need to siphon the sand and clean fish detrius at this moment.
You never siphon the sand in a properly set up marine aquarium.

I am personally becoming lost in this thread. My guess is that you are getting some bad advice from some places (LFS?) and it is causing you to ask questions which don't fit the situation. Or, perhaps, you have not read enough threads, magazines, books, etc. I am trying to help, but I feel like we are loosing you.

All of these problems can be summed up easily. Your pH was not stable and you still do not have a protein skimmer. Little mistakes led to big problems, and the problems are getting worse as the ich spreads.

By the way, ditto the comments Wake made about garlic.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:45 AM   #95
 
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wake49 Reply : Sorry for the broken link.

Butterfly died this morning. I immediately took it out on my fishbowl with some tank water, while he was lying flat and gasping on the tank. he died on fishbowl. i feel like killing my LFS.

No Way bro I am with the thread. yes very much.

Garlic fine bro, from day you Pasfur said to give it, i have started, though home garlic mixed with fish food twice everyday. Damsel spots have come down a bit, he is having home ginger mixed fish food. But colour of damsel has gone down a bit. But rubbing his body on sands and rocks most of the times.

Pasfur reply : Protien Skimmer Installed yesterday night though nothing brown is coming out yet. Okay Bro, No Siphon (Never). Plz don't get lost bro it was just a mistake, i got fooled by my LFS which most new beginners get.

Garlic products not available here so i am mixing fish food with home garlic paste.

No Way bro I am with the thread. yes very much.

All test will be repeated this Sunday and some Water replacement will be done.


Now what do i do with the Yellow Tail Damsel now. He is alone Should i buy a quarantine tank or a big bucket would do? Do i need to remove him from the display tank?

Awaiting for your reply at the earleist brothers.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:50 AM   #96
 
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Garlic products not available here so i am mixing fish food with home garlic paste.
This should be fine as long as there are no preservatives or foreign additives. Sometimes I chop up fresh garlic real fine to almost a paste to add to frozen food if I'm out of paste.

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Now what do i do with the Yellow Tail Damsel now. He is alone Should i buy a quarantine tank or a big bucket would do? Do i need to remove him from the display tank?
If he's the only fish in there, leave him in there. DO NOT treat with any copper or other chemical medication, as this will stay in your system even after you think it's gone. Keep garlic feeding and wait at least 90 Days after you have seen the last white spot disappear to put another fish in the Display. On the "should I buy a quarantine tank" question, the answer is YES. You will need this for any other fish you buy to avert this same disaster in the future.

p.s. Throw a UV sterilizer in your display tank to kill any waterbourne Ich.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:10 AM   #97
 
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p.s. Throw a UV sterilizer in your display tank to kill any waterbourne Ich.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply.

UV Sterilizer are very expensive here. What if i go with a quarantine tank and put my damsel over thr for a couple of weeks with hyposalinity. It will be a cheaper option and the ich will also die the main tank without fish for a couple of weeks.

Damsel colour is coming back, i think so...not confirmed.

More update tmrw.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:27 PM   #98
 
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the ich will also die the main tank without fish for a couple of weeks.
Time out! This is a myth. A couple weeks is not nearly long enough for ich to die off. Recent studies are pointing to a period of nearly 90 days without a host.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:22 AM   #99
 
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I am so grateful to you guys for helping me.

But my question was whether to keep the Damsel in the QT OR in the display tank. You have replied for 3 months that is fine.

Damsel is doing good since yesterday with just a single ich on his dorsal fin.

Damsel Home : QT or Display Tank ?????

Plz help. Reply Today Only coz tmrw is sunday and i can only buy QT tmrw otherwise wait for 1 week.

Thanks in Advance.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:40 AM   #100
 
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I would leave the Damsel in the display. You need to get a Q tank up and running anyhow, but there is no reason to move a single fish to a Q tank, introducing ich into the Q system.
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