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post #31 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 01:48 PM
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Mike, I will show Rob your post, but in the mean time, I want to point out that his worry about running a chiller is because Frank is located in the Phillipines. The room temp is going to be warmer than Maryland, and room temp plus the halides will make for warmer water temps.
As for the Ritteri, I don't think Rob was suggesting a Ritteri as much as he was pointing out that that too much light or too intense of light will not be healthy for other species of anemones. The ritteri likes the extra light, thrives with it, while others, especially rock anemones, would simply shrivel up and die if the light is too intense. Rob's concern is that this is a 55 gallon tank, which is shallow, it's located in a naturally "hot" environment, and some species will not like the heat or intensity of halide lighting, and heat may reach a point of becoming a real issue during a hot month or 2 of weather.
I haven't made any kinds of suggestions because I still have no idea what the tank is intended to hold for population. Whenever I work with a customer, I always tell them to choose the animals first, then set up according to what those animals will need. When I plan my reef tanks, I use this concept also. It saves wasted money and work, and saves countless animals. I don't understand how anyone can set up an environment for any animal if they don't yet know what the animal is???

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post #32 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 02:14 PM
All am saying is under proper ventilation. The tank water will not raise much. I have only lived in maryland since may. I have lived down south for the past 6 years and knew many people that have had MHs and no chiller. Thats all I meant to say, if you put enough fans in the hood it will be good.
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post #33 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 02:42 PM
a sump tank or a wet dry will also cool the water.
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post #34 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 06:08 PM
Great answer TR.

There are many answers for every question. A fan in an enclosure will help. I would never recommend anyone run a reef tank with a lid on it. Natural evaporation will help lower a tanks temp.

I live in TX, as in one of the hottest places in the US. I run WAY MORE lighting than the average bear but my tank is stable between 78F and 81F. Also if this individual wants to keep a certain type of reef then they need to be informed ahead of time that a chiller might be in their plans. Again this is why it is so difficult to answer with out a general plan laid out.
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post #35 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 08:33 PM
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So, Frank.... have you decided yet what you're going to put into the tank? What are we helping you to set up for?

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post #36 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
what i want my 50 gallon reef tank is this:
9 true clownfish
2 yellow tang
2 blue hippo
50 kilos live rock
15 kilos of white sand
anemones suited for true clownfish

50 gallon reef tank with sub tank (by the way how many gallon sub tank for a 50 gallon reef tank
subtank with foam and crush corals with outside proteinskimmer

hope this will clear things up.

please help me.
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post #37 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 10:41 PM
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For starters, that's way too many fish for a 50 gallon tank. If it were just clowns and anemones I'd say choose 4 clowns and 2 anemones, maybe 1 or 2 other SMALL fish, such as a goby or blenny.
Are you planning to upgrade within the next year to over 100 gallons? If not, then I'd say no to the tangs, because all of those will outgrow your 50 gallon tank. What about something like a coral beauty angel or flame angel? 2 clowns, 1 anemone, 1 angel... and your maintenance crew of shrimp, snails, and maybe a starfish or 2... and you'll have a full tank.
Can you rethink the fish and give us an updated list that won't overcrowd that size of a tank? What kind of clownfish are you thinking about keeping? The species of clown will determine the species of anemone, and since anemone was the only thing you listed that will require any special lighting, once we know what species you're working with, we can THEN help figure out your lighting needs.

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post #38 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 11:02 PM Thread Starter
thanks betta, i think ill follow ur suggestions, seems nice. coral beauty angel or flame angel 2 clowns, 1 anemone, 1 angel... and your maintenance crew of shrimp, snails, and maybe a starfish or 2.i want ocellaris or percula clownfish.
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post #39 of 51 Old 12-17-2006, 11:37 PM
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With that for a mix, I would suggest the ocellaris because they're smaller and more peaceful than any of the others. With those I would suggest a bubble anemone for the clowns. If you want the clowns to understand what the anemone is for, try to get wild ocellaris instead of tank raised.
With that in mind, the T5 lighting would make the most sense to me, since it's cheaper not only to purchase, but to run... less heat, and plenty for what you'll be keeping. With the HO (high output) T5's, everything should thrive! I would find it quite pointless and a waste of money to run any type of halide lighting over what you've planned. There is nothing going into the tank that would need it.
The best tank to do for a sump system, a 20 high would suit your needs fine. If you wish to do a refugium, then I'd make it a 20 long because of the dimension change.
If you need more help, let us know!

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post #40 of 51 Old 12-18-2006, 12:06 AM Thread Starter
a milion thanks betta.
how many t5 will i buy?do i still need actinic?what would be its schedule?
and one more thing,what materials will i put in my 20 gallon sub tank.?

please help.
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