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post #11 of 51 Old 08-20-2010, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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I sent you a PM about it it is a 55 gallon tank 4 feet long I'll look into a fuzzy I read about them too. If I was to get one would I be able to buy a bunch of live ghost shrimp or would I have to raise them? or is there another way? How did you get yours(if you did) to get it to eat prepared food?

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post #12 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 02:18 AM
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I think it took mine a couple days to get acclimated to it's new environment but after that it started eating mysis shrimp right away. I never had to do live food for him. At your LFS (if they do salt) will most likely have silversides which are little frozen fish that you can feed him. Lionfish are very personable. He's like a dog and gets really happy when I come into the room. He is always hungry. Also I've never had any problems with him when my hand is in the tank. He swims right by me and doesn't give it a second thought. You still want to be careful not to come down on him from the top cause it's the dorsal spines that are venomous. If you did have to get ghost shrimp would definitely breed them. Just get a little 5 gallon tank and make lots of places for them to hide.
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post #13 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice outpost. What else do you feed him besides mysis shrimp? anything? I would probably feed Mysis and silversides. is that good or is there other food they need in thy're diet? Also if he is my only and first fish do I need to QT him?

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post #14 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 04:20 PM
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Feed mine some bait squid sometimes. No you don't kneed to quarantine him of he's your first fish. I have never had to quarantine my fish. My lfs is super nice and clean. You can have other reef fish in there just nothing small enough to fit in his mouth like a clown goby
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Thank you for all the help I hate to ask more questions but I was researching sumps(used the article) outpost provided me with a link to an external overflow http://shop.aquatraders.com/Continuo...00-p/44011.htm I was wondering if and how I could make a sump out of that plus a custom built tank( i can fit up to 24in long 10ing depth and i have 20in clearance so 1 foot tall). I want to look at this concept and see if it will work better for me so if someone could help me I will make a sketch-up of the sump size.

Here's the sump dimensions I know a few things I NEED but I don't know how to set it up that's were I need help

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post #16 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 06:50 PM
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I think that is the same dimension of a 15 gal tank. If it's not the depth of the 15 is definatly 12" depth being the front to back dimension. If the 15 doesn't fit you could use a 10
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Would it be better to custom build it because the baffles will go in easier. also a 15 gallon high would be the biggest to fit and it would leave me with 2" free to get my hands in but a 10 gallon would fit fine and would probably be the biggest I could fit at 24" long 8.5" wide, and 13" tall. But how would I build one? How would the overflow reach it(what piping/tubing is required) sumps, would it be quieter or louder then what I have already?

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post #18 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 11:01 PM
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You could definately muffle the nois of the skimmer complete enclosing the stand of the tank and putting some sound board on the inside but just the regular wood of the stand will help a lot. Sometimes the back of stands are , well there is no back. Based on your situation I think that you should custom build a tank. Search rickets reef k YouTube and go to his page. He has a vid that will show you how. If you have to get a new skimmer because it will go in the sump some like to be of the water only about 6 inches. Then you could build your tank height to about 8 or 9 in.

Plotter better yet don't bother with a sump. They are not required to have a great tank. It seems like this is your first tank and I think it would be good to keep it simple. I don't even have a skimmer on my 30 gallon reef and all my SOS lps and sorties are doing awesome. You don't have to use your skimmer either. Activated carbon does the same thing that a skimmer does in theory. It absorbs nitrates and a skimmer removes them into a collection cup.

If I were you I would have my powerheds in the tank and my heater and just deal with the skimmer and get it to be quiet. The deadline is a popular skimmer and I'm sure you could find a lot of help with it.
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post #19 of 51 Old 08-21-2010, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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I will probably make a sump because it will take awhile to cycle the tank and because it seems more efficient and user friendly. Thank you for all your help outpost! I hate to ask but 2 more questions.

1.) If I build a sump do I need a heater running in the tank while cycling?

2.) What fish could I keep with the Lionfish? I thought that I could put a couple of Clowns in while the lion is a juvinile so he'll see them as friends not a nice snack. or some other +4" fish

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post #20 of 51 Old 08-22-2010, 12:35 AM
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It would be best if you used a heater while cycling.you can keep whatever fish you want with the lion fish. They stay small. I eould say don't get a fish under an inch and a half. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want. I love to answer them.
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