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Starting a brand new tank advice
Old 09-04-2010, 03:05 PM   #1
 
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Starting a brand new tank advice

Now please remember I know nothing here...I tried searching through the forum but can't find the answers to those questions, clearly enough for me to understand. Please post links if there is something good that I haven't found.

Now my goal is to set up a reef tank. I really want to eventually add some fish(and Im embarrassed to admit this, but the list consist of the fish in Finding Nemo ...if they would fit my aquarium). Please advise me on what you think of the list as well. And let me know if I can even fit that list in my smallish 75g tank.

-Pair of Clown fish
-Regal Tang
-Moorish Idol
-Damsel Fish
-Cleaner Shrimp(Pacific Cleaner?)
-Yellow tang
-Puffer
-Royal Gramma

Again my tank is mainly to build a reef. Now what I need with, is figuring out how to set up the tank. In what order to I put what, and for how long? I am still needing to order a RODI system at this point and will be buying the Live rock when the right time comes as well. Also need help understanding the live/dead rock ratio for a 75g tank, I understand the sand bed should be either 1-2 inches or 5-6 inches. But what order do you set this up in? how do you guys fill the tank the first time? how long should the water be in the tank before you add sand and rock?

Hope I make sense, thanks for the help.

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Old 09-04-2010, 03:34 PM   #2
 
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The other thing is light, how much light am I supposed to use and for how long?
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:39 PM   #3
 
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you will probably not be able to keep the puffer with the fishes that you want to keep ...the morish idol is a rather hard fish to care for a heniochis would probably be a better bet... get lighting rated at or above 6500 kelvin....brightness is depending on coral species but usualy T5s or a hqi metal halide will do just fine...dont forget your 420nm actinic....keep asking questions and you shall recieve answers..ADIOS....
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:24 AM   #4
 
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-Pair of Clown fish
-Regal Tang
-Moorish Idol
-Damsel Fish
-Cleaner Shrimp(Pacific Cleaner?)
-Yellow tang
-Puffer
-Royal Gramma
since you want a reef, and shrimp, i would skip the puffer. i would also skip the damsel personally. its one tang or the other, which in this case i would choose the yellow, which its pushing its limit in your size tank. absolutely not the idol, they have such a specific diet that it sadly wont last a few months let alone a year.

if i was starting a new tank, i would fill it about half way with RO water, add some salt and turn on atleast 1 powerhead and heater. i say about halfway because the sand and rock will displace some water. i would also get some RO water and salt in a tupperware going with a powerhead and heater ( to make up for the extra water you'll need to add ) wait 24 hours, test salinity with refractometer. if things are exceptable 1.020-025 range, turn off powerhead for time being, start alittle bit of my rockwork, id then add either 1 inch (and under) OR 4 - 6 inches of sand. 2 inches is bad. you will notice the tank turned cloudy, which may take waiting another 24 - 48 hours for it to settle enough to see how to finish aquascaping your rock. ( which some people do outside of their tank, esp if the rock is dry )
keep in mind mixing RO and salt in the display can only happen the first time setting up the tank, when NOTHING is in it.
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:44 PM   #5
 
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How do you know how much salt to use in the tank?
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:49 PM   #6
 
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the packege has directions but i would personally start with a little less than they call for and test it after its been mixing for about an hour (i toss a power head in the bucket to keep things suspended) i like to run mine at a Specific gravity (SG) of 1.022-1.024.. when you find that you need to top of the tank however dont mix just used treated fresh water..
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:44 PM   #7
 
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Perfect, thank you.

So from what I understand so far, i am going to need about 75 lbs of rock for my tank correct? now this being for a reef, should I be getting all live rock for this?(very pricey I know) can I get away with doing less live rock? From what I gather, soft corals are going to be the easiest thing to try to grow as a first timer(tho I would love to progress to more at some point).

Again appreciate all your help (...yes you may shake your head at me )
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Old 09-09-2010, 09:24 PM   #8
 
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no head shaking at all one way to save cost is to get base (also called dry rock) and some live rock to seed it this will take a bit more time to mature but will really be cost effective... dont forget your live sand will also help in seeding the rock... if you want fast then all live if you want to go slow (highly recommended) mix base and live.... read some of my threads from when i started the 50 and you will see a great example of why to start slow and stay the course one crash and a load of money wasted will really put things in perspective...
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Old 09-10-2010, 09:52 PM   #9
 
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im with bear .....seeding a tank and letting it settle out is the way to go...when i start a new tank and dont want to break the bank ki take a hammer to a nice piece of rock with coraline algae and shatter it to pieces ...then i spread it amongst the not so live rock....,also strategic placing will help fuse some rocks together......and i would always recomend thowing some live sand even just a few pounds to introduce some copapods and nematodes to get it up and running...well ....ADIOS...
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:04 AM   #10
 
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So from what I understand so far, i am going to need about 75 lbs of rock for my tank correct?
Not exactly. The weight of a piece of rock does not determine its size. (google "mass") Hopefully by now you have looked at enough pictures of actual reef tanks that you will be able to eyeball when you have added enough rock to your tank. If you use the Key Largo dry rock from Marco Rocks, then a 75 pound order will be good, combined with 10 pounds or so of live rock from the LFS.

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From what I gather, soft corals are going to be the easiest thing to try to grow as a first timer(tho I would love to progress to more at some point).
Not only are soft corals easier, they are in fact relatively easy to keep. It is keeping algae under control that is the challenge, which will be greatly determined by the bioload and quality of skimmer.

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take a hammer to a nice piece of rock with coraline algae and shatter it to pieces ...then i spread it amongst the not so live rock.
This is a great idea. Less expensive is to just ask the LFS to provide you with a handfull of the rubble from the bottom of their live rock vat. Most will do so for free, and it will help greatly to seed the sand bed. Obviously, you want to make this request at the LFS with which you actually spend money on other items.
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