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Old 05-03-2014, 10:45 AM   #21
 
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ALL Corals fight to some extent.Some via chemicals and some with potent stings,there are some that just simply grow over and"consume"the neighboring corals.That being said you simply do not want to have any corals touching that are not of the same species,one will lose. Due to varying requirements it is usually best to try and accommodate a particular type of coral such as soft,LPS,SPS then stray from there into the other categories of corals that have similar needs.Most people start soft,go LPS,then dabble in SPS. Once one starts to go with SPS the softs and LPS slowly become secondary as far as the tanks target parameters and flow change to accommodate the other genus of coral.

In the beginning I would not worry about feeding the corals as you should be aiming to have photosynthetic corals in your tank that derive most of the nutrition from the lighting and water column.After you have you system in check you can look into many types of foods but I prefer live or frozen foods such as brine shrimp,mysys shrimp,oyster eggs,plankton mixes, and more. Simply look at the size of mouth and go slightly smaller for the food items and do some research on the coral in question to make sure it will actually benefit from feeding.But feed sparingly.

You can roll with regular salt mixes for a while but if you start going with large amounts of corals or stoney corals you will probably want to get reef crystals or look into some osrt of dosing product for calcium,KH, anbd Magnesium.
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:22 AM   #22
 
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Okay! So are Soft, LPS and SPS in a similar category or are they completely different but just live with each other all right as far as water requirements go?

So if I used these as Taz touched on: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...45&pcatid=4145 and http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...49&pcatid=4749 with the regular salt mix, is that comparable to using the reef crystals only? Is going one way better than the other if this is the case?

Also, I've stumbled upon a 30 gallon reef ready tank being sold on craigslist that, if the cards are played right, I might be able to get! This doesn't mean I'm going to rush into corals but I'm sure it would help in the long run to stablize the tank quicker again if I didn't screw up on anything? Is this a good idea to get or should I just start from scratch? The tank is drilled and has a nice looking sump on the bottom rack, looks maybe 20 gallons? I'll have to ask of that. Listed with the stand, sump and tank but I've asked about lighting and what kind of sand/rocks they were using and of course where they heck they are located since it wasn't listed! lol So that's also a factor; if it's too far out of reach I won't be able to get it but all the same, is it a good idea to get a tank like this rather than using my 13's?
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:40 PM   #23
 
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Oh and you said no corals touching that are not of the same species, not type? Like could I put two softs near each other or is it the specific species of softs?
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Old 05-03-2014, 03:48 PM   #24
 
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specific species. Like a Hammer and a frogspawn can sit next to each other, but they are both LPS. and both Euphyllia , one is Euphyllia ancora, the other Euphyllia paradivisa. But a frogspawn and a sun coral... death to the sun coral
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Old 05-03-2014, 03:58 PM   #25
 
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Okay, so hypothetically could I have a tank with all Euphyllia coral and have them next to each other and have no issues? Well...little to no issues? I'm sure some of them will sting others regardless of their type? Or will say...two torch corals, if they were within reach could they sting each other or are they immune to their own species?

Also, still on about that 30 gallon tank. Is it a good idea to get that rather than use my 13's since it is already pretty much establish although I'd probably have to cycle it over again. I saw another journal about waiting for algae blooms before adding corals, do I have to wait for just diatoms to pass or other blooms as well? As in freshwater, the blooms won't hurt fish, correct?
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Old 05-03-2014, 04:40 PM   #26
 
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OK now heres whare getting things secondhand can be a miracle or a curse. It depends on the health of the system. I would not use the sand. If you do you will need to rinse, rinse rinse, and repeat. Which will kill all the good stuff. The rock, you take the risk of introducing parasites, hitchhikers (both good and bad) and other unwanted creatures. And theres no way around it unless you acid wash it. But with that bein said it will help the establishment of all the good bacteria and greatly reduce the cycling time. SO its your judgment call. Inspect the rock very closely. Research live rock hitchhikers. And if you decide you want the system but not the risks vinegar bathe everything. I have gotten alot of secondhand things including live rock, and i have had some nasty little creatures come out of it lol/
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:05 PM   #27
 
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Just because the corals are in the same family or genus does not mean they will not harm each other when in contact. Euphylia,Ricordea,Zoanthids, and Discasoma are an exception in that regard as they will not harm each other,just overgrow one another. But say acropora,montipora,acanthastrea,favia,pavona, and many others can really do some damage to each other when touching.When in doubt just keep em separated.
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:32 AM   #28
 
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Turns out the tank only comes with the tank, stand, and sump. he's not including the pump that goes with it and there's no live sand in the tank but there is in the sump where the refugium is. There is also no live rock either so is 250 worth it? Should I try to talk him down to 200 if this is the case?

Thanks for info badxgillen.
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Old 05-04-2014, 08:45 AM   #29
 
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IMO thats way too high. I paid 200 for my 65g and came with everything but the lights. and rock. Tank, sump, skimmer, 4 powerheads, return pump,stand. and sand
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Old 05-04-2014, 12:04 PM   #30
 
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Wow, okay good to know. I offered 200, have yet to--checking email currently to see what the guy said---well that was a rude ending! Here's what he said to my offer:

"really why you waste my time if i had it for $275 and dropped to $250 what makes you think im going to let it go for $200 the SQWD alone is about $80 i could get at least $150 for the sump cause i sold 2 of them i know i made these sumps goodbye this would be the last time we speak thank you"

what the hell is a SQWD anyway?

Anyway, still trying to wrap my head around the corals bit. So a Torch and a Hammer won't really sting each other because they are both euphyllia? But some other species will still be aggressive with the same species?
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