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post #11 of 27 Old 09-07-2011, 08:43 PM
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Ok it looks like i am going to mamange to get a full set up for fairly cheap. Thing is though live sand comes with it as it is a mature tank. Is there some way I can store this sand while I read up and learn more or will it have to be chucked?

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You can store it. You'll have to rinse it really well before you put it back in the tank once you decide to. It won't be Live Sand at that point, but will soon get its life back.
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post #12 of 27 Old 09-08-2011, 02:42 AM Thread Starter
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Is there intert life within the sand that will come back to life as it were once I have put it back in the tank then. I dont fully understand how libve sand works at the moment.

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post #13 of 27 Old 09-08-2011, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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I am now having second thought about this. RO water is bloody expensive, it would cost me 22 just to fill my tank and if you need water changes every week!

RO Units also are not really cost effective as they waste 3 gallons for every 1 Gallon of RO water they produce!

Really not sure about this now :O(
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post #14 of 27 Old 09-08-2011, 07:35 AM Thread Starter
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Ok I have just realised that the 11 is for the first time you buy it with bucket.

The tank I am going to be getting is an Orca TL450

So were back on as they charge 3.75 for 25l refil. So the first time I get it obviously I will need to get 58l but then when I need to do a water change its only going to be 1/4 of the tank say. So.....

3.75 / 25 = 15p per litre
25% of 58l for a water change is 14.5l
14.5l x 15p = 2.17 per water change.

Can someone check my maths on this because I am terrible at it and a moment ago I had it wokred out as 93p per water change!

Next question though. This water is without salt or anything so I will have to test and add. How long before it goes into to the tank does this have to be done?

Also, what do I need to add to it to make it good for the tank...i.e salt, nutrients so on and so forth?

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post #15 of 27 Old 09-08-2011, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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After much questing online I have decided 10% weekly would be better, as long as all the detrius is removed within the 10%. So thats 5.8l weekly @ 15p per litre which works out @ 87p per water change :) which I think will work out much cheaper than getting an RO unit seeing as we are going to be having a watermeter fitted soon.

The above questions still apply however lol

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post #16 of 27 Old 09-08-2011, 07:34 PM
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Ok I have just realised that the 11 is for the first time you buy it with bucket.

The tank I am going to be getting is an Orca TL450

So were back on as they charge 3.75 for 25l refil. So the first time I get it obviously I will need to get 58l but then when I need to do a water change its only going to be 1/4 of the tank say. So.....

3.75 / 25 = 15p per litre
25% of 58l for a water change is 14.5l
14.5l x 15p = 2.17 per water change.

Can someone check my maths on this because I am terrible at it and a moment ago I had it wokred out as 93p per water change!

Next question though. This water is without salt or anything so I will have to test and add. How long before it goes into to the tank does this have to be done?

Also, what do I need to add to it to make it good for the tank...i.e salt, nutrients so on and so forth?

James
WOW. Let the water sit with the salt stirring for 24hrs before adding it to the tank.
Seond, you'll need a refractometer to check the salinity of the water, you want it between 1.024 and 1.026. And your 10% water changes weekly works out well.
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post #17 of 27 Old 09-09-2011, 03:01 AM Thread Starter
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Yah sorry for the mass overload of info and posts there. I kinda need to type things out and see them to understand them and get it straight in my head. :(

Another question though. People say that getting an RO unit saves you money, I dont undertsand how this is possible seeing as for every 1 gallon you make, you lose 3 gallons. And if you are on a water metre....woah...lol

Also how much salt would I have to use roughly to get the salinity I need from the outset, as in 58l?

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post #18 of 27 Old 09-09-2011, 03:34 AM Thread Starter
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I tried to edit the post above but I couldnt

I am trying to srot out the UK/US Gallon/Litre thing. Nightmare

So far I have:

1/2 cup per gallon...this is a US measure and I am in UK

1/2 a cup = 90 Grams.

So basically I just need to know how much salt in grams per UK litre of water I need from the start, which is 58 litres.

Cheers and I am sorry for being a pain in the arse

Jimi
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post #19 of 27 Old 09-09-2011, 10:47 AM
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58 Litres = 15 gallons
Roughly a bit more than 1/2 per gallon to get to 1.025. 15 gallons with 8 cups to get to about 1.026. Refractometer is the only way to get it accurate though.
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post #20 of 27 Old 09-09-2011, 10:48 AM
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I tried to edit the post above but I couldnt

I am trying to srot out the UK/US Gallon/Litre thing. Nightmare

So far I have:

1/2 cup per gallon...this is a US measure and I am in UK

1/2 a cup = 90 Grams.

So basically I just need to know how much salt in grams per UK litre of water I need from the start, which is 58 litres.

Cheers and I am sorry for being a pain in the arse

Jimi
No worries, thats what we're here for.
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