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Old 05-17-2011, 11:12 AM   #21
 
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hmmm

i have several urchins including 3 pencil urchins ...the pencil urchins may harm something i dont know about but i keep mine with variouse corals soft,colonial and stony with no problems.there may be a coral that is tasty to it but not sure on that one.and as far as getting things to work for you cheap you must have patience and much research.you can setup a cheap salt water tank but only with the prior two things in good practice..i have recently setup a coral tank for under $100 but that is having been in this hobby for a few years.so take it slow and do it right.
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:59 PM   #22
 
I am definitely just getting rid of the urchin its really sweet but I don't want to risk it.. still what's best for the lighting I'm not using the stand now till I figure out what to do ANY suggestions other then buy a new light thanks for all the help you have giving me
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #23
 
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I never personally saw my pencil urchin eat any coral before I moved him to my FOWLR tank, but better safe than sorry.

There is such a thing as bargain shopping for parts and other things related to saltwater tanks, but it can still be expensive.

The light looks extremely unsafe. Find out what kind of light and model # that is, and check a place like Marine Depot.com ... they carry many adaptors to hang light fixtures from the ceiling if that is possible for you. That would be much safer and you could still use the same light.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:01 PM   #24
 
Hey thanks ill look on there I might attach it to the wall like a shelf any thoughts on that?
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:35 PM   #25
 
what do you think about this as a final livestock group
2 clown fish
diamond goby
scooter blenny
sixline wrasse
blue damsal fish
either another damsal fish or something else.... suggestions??? already have one damsal and one clown maybe ill get rid of the damsal and get something else or is just the clowns, gobys and wrasse enough...

inverts... 1 turbo snail 1 other snail not sure what kind yet... 1 or 2 emerald crabs what do you think? also hermit crabs if that would be good?

also i want a bubble anemone i know it will out grow my tank but then ill get a new one and sell the other one

for corals eventually i would like many mushrooms and some feather dusters or Xenia not sure on that yet cause its far off

please feel free to tell me if i have too much or the numbers i should have i do like to trade my fish when they get bigger so i dont expect to have all adult fish except maybe the clowns
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:45 PM   #26
 
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I don't think you can do that with those adaptors... they are meant to be strung from the ceiling like with wire or chain. (Wire is much less noticeable) If I didn't have my hood I would want to hang mine from the ceiling.
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:51 PM   #27
 
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what do you think about this as a final livestock group
2 clown fish
diamond goby
scooter blenny
sixline wrasse
blue damsal fish
either another damsal fish or something else.... suggestions??? already have one damsal and one clown maybe ill get rid of the damsal and get something else or is just the clowns, gobys and wrasse enough...

inverts... 1 turbo snail 1 other snail not sure what kind yet... 1 or 2 emerald crabs what do you think? also hermit crabs if that would be good?

also i want a bubble anemone i know it will out grow my tank but then ill get a new one and sell the other one

for corals eventually i would like many mushrooms and some feather dusters or Xenia not sure on that yet cause its far off

please feel free to tell me if i have too much or the numbers i should have i do like to trade my fish when they get bigger so i dont expect to have all adult fish except maybe the clowns
WAIT on the anemone. Mine likes to be up near the light and remember I have 2x the light you have. I think you would definitely need to upgrade your light.

And please, PLEASE, forget the damsel. The only reason I am hanging on to my blue is that she was the very first saltwater fish I ever got. Please trust me I have had several different types of damsels and they can all get extremely NASTY and harrass other fish to the point of death.

I am not sure on the compatibility of those fish, but just remember to add them very slowly. As in wait a couple of weeks or more between to allow the bacteria in your live rock to adjust to the new bio load.

Check out my tank : 65g Softie Reef - 65 gallon Saltwater fish tank and yes when my tang is a little bigger he is going to a friend's tank. (my hubby came home with him one day, I know better lol)

I need some new pics and vids though.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:23 PM   #28
 
my light isnt good enough????????? what????!!!!!!!!! i have t5 light with 96 watt actinic lights and 10000 k 96 watt bulb what would be good enough?

and i cant really hang it from the ceiling i have a drop ceiling..

and if i get rid of the damsal then can i get another fish so then i would have 2 clowns, 1 sixline, 1 goby, 1 scooter and the other fish or would that be too much? and what about the inverts..
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:42 AM   #29
 
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no nem. atleast not for a good year. they are very sensitive inverts. having clown fish + an anemone doesnt mean the clowns will host it. infact ive had clowns host corals, rocks, powerheads, anything THEY feel comfort in, not what you want them to feel comfort in. i believe your t5s are only 2 bulb? i would like to see a 4 bulb t5 at minimum for keeping the nem and thats prob. pushing it, so even better metal halides.
i dont think i would do a scooter blenny as they are similiar to mandarins and like a good pod population for a food source. you may be able to keep one, but further down the road in a more mature tank. i suggest skipping the damsel as well. they can be nasty fish ( but so can that 6line, so add him last )
emerald crabs, just like any crab are opportunistic eaters, meaning what they get their hands on, is what they'll pick at and eat. this can go for hermit CRABS too. i personally wont keep crabs anywhere other then my refuge on my tank. esp the hermits they love killing snails for their shell, and then decide they dont like that shell. as for a clean up crew you'd be better off having a mixture of different snails IMO ( besides predatory kinds like bumble bees ) like 10 nass, 10 cerith, 10 astrea... something to keep in mind.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:08 AM   #30
 
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my light isnt good enough????????? what????!!!!!!!!! i have t5 light with 96 watt actinic lights and 10000 k 96 watt bulb what would be good enough??
Ok so I thought you said in a previous post you had a 2-bulb t5 fixture. In a 36" fixture each bulb should be 39w, and in a 48" fixture each bulb should be 54w. So to say its 96w that sounds like something else. And to be honest the picture I saw of the bottom side of your fixture, the bulb inside looks like a power compact, not a t5. If you have a bulb that looks like this you have a power compact fixture. 96W Power Compact Bulb - Square Pin
That one is 96w. Do you have 2 of these?

You could hang it with a drop ceiling but someone that knows how to do it would need to mount it. Marine depot also sells replacement legs to set it on your tank.
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