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Old 02-10-2013, 03:37 PM   #11
 
Cleared up nice.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:52 PM   #12
 
I just bought a test kit today. My aquarium has only been going for 2 days now, should I test it yet or wait?
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:54 PM   #13
 
I'd wait, no reason to test unless you just want to test your test. =)
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:03 PM   #14
 
Lol, how long would you wait? Is there a chance I might be able to get a CUC this weekend since it is all cured live rock and live sand? I know the numbers will affect fish but how picky are CUC on this stuff?

The tank comes with a 3 stage filter, sponge, carbon, and biological (ceramic things for algae to grow on). Is this good or is there something I should change for some reason? If so then why?

Lastly it didn't come with a protein skimmer but they do make one for it. I assume it would be good to buy one?

Lastly is there anything I am missing I should plan on getting?

Sorry if this is a lot of questions. Remember I'm a newb. =)
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:13 PM   #15
 
I'd wait til the 4th day, then you should get a good reading, and it should be a good reading. Inverts are more suseptable to bad water than the fish are. But Cured rock will give you a head start, and you should be ready to go in a couple more days.
Skimmer for a 28g, na, not really, but your on the bubble there, I say anything under 30g and you just need to watch your water parameters and do your weekly water changes.
Heres the list of thing to have:
#1-Dry Rock, there are a few hitchhikers on Live Rock that people want to stay away from, so they opt for using Dry Rock, or Dead Rock. Macro Rock is a good place to start looking for that. Either way you go you will need a minimum of 1lb per gallon. You can use Fully Cured Live Rock, and have the tank cycled in just a few days also. Other way is to use just a couple of pounds of Live Rock and the rest Macro or Dry Rock.
#2-Replacement filter media like filter floss and activated carbon (if you get a filter) Which is really not necessary.
#3-Multiple Power heads (2 or 3) 10x your water volume for just a Fish Only With Live Rock, and at least 20x your water volume for a Reef Tank. So lets say your going reef, and you have a 100g tank, you would need flow in that tank at minimum of 2000gph, or 2 1000gph power heads.
#4-Protein Skimmer, rated at 2 times your water volume. Unless your tank is under 30g, in which case you can do 10% water changes a week to rid the system of detrius. But, you'll have to watch the water parameters close, if things go haywire, you'll have to do more water changes.
#5-Saltwater Test Kits. Reef Test Kit. Test for Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, PH, Phosphates, Calcium, ALK and Magnesium.
#6-Saltwater fish food. Mysis Shrimp, Squid, Cyclopease, Algae Sheets, Romaine . Flake food is not really a good food to feed your marine fish.
#7-Aquarium vacuum. This one is iffy. Most don't use one, if you have enough flow in the tank you won’t need one
#8-Rubber kitchen gloves
#9-Fish net
#10-Two, clean, never used before, 5-gallon buckets
#11-Aquarium thermometer, digital being the best.
#12-Brush with plastic bristles (old tooth brush) - needed for cleaning the live rock if you don't get Fully Cured Live Rock.
#13-Power Strip, possibly GFCI outlets by the tank.
#14-Optional but definitely recommend getting a Reverse Osmosis or RO/Deionization filter for the make-up water, and a barrel for storing the water.
#15-Possibly a Quarantine Tank for your new fish. They sit in here for a few weeks to kill off parasites and bacteria, to keep it from getting in your main tank
#16-Heater rated for your size tank.
#17-Saltwater Mix. Marine Salt. Instant Ocean is the cheap Salt that beginners and Advanced use alike.
#18-Saltwater Hydrometer or even better a Refractometer, which is more accurate. There is also a Digital Meter that is way advanced if you have the cash.
#19-Aquarium filter (not absolutely necessary if running with adequate amounts of live rock, but nice to have if you need to use a mechanical filter or activated carbon, or GFO and such)
#20-Aquarium substrate such as live sand or crushed coral. Some go bare Bottom, others choose the 2-3" bottom, others, more advanced will try the Deep Sand Bed, which is over 6" deep.
Volusion Demo Store
Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle and Cycling. Methods for Ammonia, Nitrite Removal.
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MarcoRocks Aquarium Products
Bulk Dry Live Rock & Live Sand - Bulk Reef Supply
Live Rock and Live Sand: Live Saltwater Aquarium Rock and Sand
Fish & Aquarium Supplies: Marine Substrates, Sand, Crushed Coral, Live Sand
Aquarium Lighting, Light Information; Reef & Planted, PAR, Watt, Kelvin.
http://live-plants.com/
What Your Coral Needs | Successful Reef Keeping
t-5 lighting | eBay
cree led aquarium | eBay
Aquarium Salt Mix: Salt for Saltwater and Freshwater Fish Aquariums
Aquarium Water Testing: Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Reef Master Liquid Test Kit
Reef Aquarium Care: Kent Marine Liquid Calcium Supplement
Saltwater Aquarium Buffer: Kent Marine Superbuffer-dKH pH Buffer and Alkalinity Builder
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:13 PM   #16
 
I'd wait til the 4th day, then you should get a good reading, and it should be a good reading. Inverts are more suseptable to bad water than the fish are. But Cured rock will give you a head start, and you should be ready to go in a couple more days.
Skimmer for a 28g, na, not really, but your on the bubble there, I say anything under 30g and you just need to watch your water parameters and do your weekly water changes.
Heres the list of thing to have:
#1-Dry Rock, there are a few hitchhikers on Live Rock that people want to stay away from, so they opt for using Dry Rock, or Dead Rock. Macro Rock is a good place to start looking for that. Either way you go you will need a minimum of 1lb per gallon. You can use Fully Cured Live Rock, and have the tank cycled in just a few days also. Other way is to use just a couple of pounds of Live Rock and the rest Macro or Dry Rock.
#2-Replacement filter media like filter floss and activated carbon (if you get a filter) Which is really not necessary.
#3-Multiple Power heads (2 or 3) 10x your water volume for just a Fish Only With Live Rock, and at least 20x your water volume for a Reef Tank. So lets say your going reef, and you have a 100g tank, you would need flow in that tank at minimum of 2000gph, or 2 1000gph power heads.
#4-Protein Skimmer, rated at 2 times your water volume. Unless your tank is under 30g, in which case you can do 10% water changes a week to rid the system of detrius. But, you'll have to watch the water parameters close, if things go haywire, you'll have to do more water changes.
#5-Saltwater Test Kits. Reef Test Kit. Test for Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, PH, Phosphates, Calcium, ALK and Magnesium.
#6-Saltwater fish food. Mysis Shrimp, Squid, Cyclopease, Algae Sheets, Romaine . Flake food is not really a good food to feed your marine fish.
#7-Aquarium vacuum. This one is iffy. Most don't use one, if you have enough flow in the tank you won’t need one
#8-Rubber kitchen gloves
#9-Fish net
#10-Two, clean, never used before, 5-gallon buckets
#11-Aquarium thermometer, digital being the best.
#12-Brush with plastic bristles (old tooth brush) - needed for cleaning the live rock if you don't get Fully Cured Live Rock.
#13-Power Strip, possibly GFCI outlets by the tank.
#14-Optional but definitely recommend getting a Reverse Osmosis or RO/Deionization filter for the make-up water, and a barrel for storing the water.
#15-Possibly a Quarantine Tank for your new fish. They sit in here for a few weeks to kill off parasites and bacteria, to keep it from getting in your main tank
#16-Heater rated for your size tank.
#17-Saltwater Mix. Marine Salt. Instant Ocean is the cheap Salt that beginners and Advanced use alike.
#18-Saltwater Hydrometer or even better a Refractometer, which is more accurate. There is also a Digital Meter that is way advanced if you have the cash.
#19-Aquarium filter (not absolutely necessary if running with adequate amounts of live rock, but nice to have if you need to use a mechanical filter or activated carbon, or GFO and such)
#20-Aquarium substrate such as live sand or crushed coral. Some go bare Bottom, others choose the 2-3" bottom, others, more advanced will try the Deep Sand Bed, which is over 6" deep.
Volusion Demo Store
Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle and Cycling. Methods for Ammonia, Nitrite Removal.
aquarium heater in Aquarium & Fish | eBay
power heads | eBay
NEW | eBay
MarcoRocks Aquarium Products
Bulk Dry Live Rock & Live Sand - Bulk Reef Supply
Live Rock and Live Sand: Live Saltwater Aquarium Rock and Sand
Fish & Aquarium Supplies: Marine Substrates, Sand, Crushed Coral, Live Sand
Aquarium Lighting, Light Information; Reef & Planted, PAR, Watt, Kelvin.
http://live-plants.com/
What Your Coral Needs | Successful Reef Keeping
t-5 lighting | eBay
cree led aquarium | eBay
Aquarium Salt Mix: Salt for Saltwater and Freshwater Fish Aquariums
Aquarium Water Testing: Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Reef Master Liquid Test Kit
Reef Aquarium Care: Kent Marine Liquid Calcium Supplement
Saltwater Aquarium Buffer: Kent Marine Superbuffer-dKH pH Buffer and Alkalinity Builder
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:30 PM   #17
 
Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it. I think I have some reading to do. =)
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:42 PM   #18
 
I take it from reading your post that while I may not need a protein skimmer it would help keep my water parameters better?
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:59 PM   #19
 
Yup, pretty much.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:18 PM   #20
 
Well an update on my tank. Water seem to be doing alright. Ammonia had gone up to around 1ppm and now it is back down with the nitrites and nitrates going up some. PH has been good around 8.4, temp has been at 79, and Sal has been at 1.023. Things seem to be moving along. Looks like I have a bit of pods all of a sudden, little tiny white guys throughout my tank. Think these are the copepods. I have a couple feather dusters. One is a little guy who I just noticed. The other is a little bigger and doesn't seem to be the happiest. He has his plume but it isn't open, kinda closed and he has left his tube and landed on another rock. Maybe he is just waiting for the water to fix itself up? Not sure about him being without a tube. I think I found a bristle worm. Also have a tiny shell dude with red hairs sticking out. Another tube has two antennas sticking out. Also have a brown blobbie looking thing that looks as though it might give birth to something. Kinda looks like the center section is buldging out. Have two baby star fish that were hitch hikers. It's not much I guess but to me it's cool seeing all this stuff coming to life. I did have a rock with aiptasia on it but it had so much and I wasn't confident a shrimp would be able to get to all of it I decided to pull the rock and kill it. Note this was a cured live rock (concrete crap sold as cured live rock that I feel ripped off about) so it didn't have all the cool stuff on it. All the cool stuff came with some real live rock I added to what was there. I know it was long winded but that's my update. =)
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