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post #1 of 21 Old 03-25-2009, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
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move over,look out, another noob.

well i can't find the thread i started,when i thought i might change
to salt water,so i'm buggin you all with a new one.
i'm starting.no going back,it's going to happen this time !!
look out here i come.
i would like a reef,not a Fish Only With Live Rock.
i'm going to convert the 4ft over to salt water,i set up my juwel rekord96 so
i can keep a couple of the fresh water,but i will have to rehome the likes of my
clown loaches :( yoyos yaddayadda.
i would like a DSB of aound 4 inches.
the equipment i am trying to price up.and how to manage the filling of the tank,
do i do my first fill using LFS ready made,or do it myself. ?
anyway,just wanted to let you know that's what i'm planning. :)

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #2 of 21 Old 03-25-2009, 08:24 AM
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well its about time.

i suggest getting a RO/DI unit from the start, a bucket of salt ( and rolling it around on the floor for a few minutes prior opening to mix up what settled ) and pre mixing in a seperate container atleast 24 hours in advance. this saves a tremendous amount of money and also allows you to know whats going into the tank.
since its your first time filling water you can mix the water in a bare bone empty tank (this time only since theres absolutely no livestock, which includes sand and rock)
get a refractometer rather then a hydrometer. you can find refractos cheap on ebay.

do you know what kind of lighting? livestock yet? type of corals? what skimmer?

ohh im excited!!
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post #3 of 21 Old 03-25-2009, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
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i already have t5 lights,they;re ok right ?
i would like ..........ummmmm ohhhhhh ummmmmmmm
welllllllll a pulsing xenia and bangaii,a clown fish,shrimp.
i need to research so much.
i need to clear the freshwater tank,and find a new home for them all.
i did think about just getting aready made tank,but i don't want another big tank really.
umm yeah i'm getting excited at the thought,but i'm super scared too.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #4 of 21 Old 03-25-2009, 08:52 PM
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Willow, I am SUPER excited. We will give you the most hand-holding patience you have ever seen. If necessary, we will all get together, purchase passports, and fly to England.

Lets get organized. The important decisions:

1) What type and brand of sand? How deep?
2) Sump?
3) What type and brand of skimmer?
4) Lighting?
5) Source of live rock? May I recommend Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock I bought Fiji. Recently ordered KeyLargo. Will provide feedback.

This should cover the guts and glory. In my setups, I do not distinguish between FOWLR and reef. I set everything up the same. Natural is the way to go, with live rock and an awesome kick-butt high quality save the day can't go wrong Protein Skimmer.-)
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post #5 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 04:32 AM Thread Starter
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aww bless your heart :)
ok now what say you on this..............
keep the external filter and use that ? instead of getting a sump ?
live rock fiji sounds good.
4in sand bed
i don't know what type though ? sorry
lights are at the moment two T5s i need a couple more right ?
koralia power heads.... how many 4 ?
reverse osmosis kit
refractometer
test kit.
on some stuff i added it up to £616.00 already lol
now about this here protein skimmer,is this what i need ?

i took this image off the internet.
how much sand would i be needing for my tank ?
thanks guys you the best. :)

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something seeded for you next filter.
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post #6 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 07:06 AM
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That Skimmer is a SeaClone, looks like the 100. If you are going reef and not using a sump, i would suggesting something a little more powerful. That being said, when it comes to affordable low cost skimmers, this one is not horrible. I have used it on a 29 gallon reef and 55 gallon FOWLR aquarium. I think you need a bigger skimmer.

How about one of these 2 options:
Berlin X2 Venturi: Berlin X2 Venturi Skimmer | Venturi Models | Protein Skimmers | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com
Coralife Super Skimmer 125: Super Skimmer with Needle Wheel - Up to 125 gallon | Venturi Models | Protein Skimmers | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com

Keep in mind, the ratings on these skimmers are a joke. You need to find something rated closer to a 125 than a 55.
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post #7 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 07:12 AM
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im not sure what size tank your going, but adding just a tank with a bubble trap as a super simple sump would be better then no sump. additional water volume and a place for an in-sump skimmer, heater and phos/carbon reactors.
i personally would drill the tank and at the very least do that ( if not make a full on sump ) and get a in sump skimmer ( or even out of sump ) thats rated 150-200 gallons just so i had room to upgrade. but thats just me.

your def. going to want atleast another two t5s if not 4. you should be alright with 2 hydor Ks, depending on tank size and corals you wish to keep will determine the model #s.
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post #8 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 10:54 AM Thread Starter
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thanks guys.
ok i'll add the extra lights to the list,and look into the other stuff.
i would like to visit the LFS at the weekend,i also need to look around
at what other LFS stock marine.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #9 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 11:32 AM
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Willow, I am SUPER excited. We will give you the most hand-holding patience you have ever seen. If necessary, we will all get together, purchase passports, and fly to England.
I'm in!

Also look into getting some test kits. you may have some from the FW that you kept before but FW ph testing doesn't cover SW, unless you got one that does. Not sure about the others?

I would poke around and find a club for saltwater too. Will you be using HGH down the line.

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post #10 of 21 Old 03-26-2009, 12:02 PM Thread Starter
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I'm in!
thanks that's vewry kind of you.

Will you be using HGH down the line.
now your taking advantag of me being a noob lol
whats an HGH ?

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