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Old 11-06-2008, 12:34 AM   #51
 
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Question for you: I know you've been posting this topic on saltwater forums, but as we have a large freshwater community here at FishForum I thought it'd be a good question to ask.

So...have you heard about anyone using a similar system on a freshwater tank? I can definitely see the benefits of using an algae scrubber on a freshwater tank that doesn't have enough live plants to handle a lot of nitrates but also would benefit from having fewer water changes done. I'm thinking specifically about plant-free cichlid tanks. In New World cichlid tanks, you could maintain some great blackwater. Avoiding water changes would be great, since this would prevent pH swings and water color changes during water changes. In African rift lake cichlid tanks, you want to maintain a high pH and high hardness (usually achieved through the use of aragonite sand, crushed coral substrate or filter media, and even limestone rockwork). Obviously, doing water changes with water that's softer and more acidic can be detrimental to your fish, so it would be advantageous to not have to do water changes as often.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:51 AM   #52
 
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Some folks are starting some scrubbers now on FW tanks, but it's too early to get results. Concept remains the same, however... removal of N and P and ammonia, increase pH and oxygen.
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:04 AM   #53
 
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I figured the concept would check out just fine, I just wasn't sure if there was a species of freshwater algae that would work as well on a freshwater scrubber as the turf algae people are getting on their saltwater scrubbers. Keep us updated!
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:54 AM   #54
 
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Today's build of the day is from "Bob the (reef)builder" on the MASA site, the same fellow who made the outdoor scrubber. He now is the first one to build the acrylic Santa Monica version for his own tank. Here is the original layout I posted a while back:





(It's currently the only filter of any kind on my tank.)

Here is Bob's version of the same thing; It's 4 feet long, using 2 T5's on each side:







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Old 11-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #55
 
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Another reefer with a good camera offered to take pics and vids of my display, but until we can arrange for that, here are some sump shots with my old 2meg camera:








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Old 11-09-2008, 03:56 PM   #56
 
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Result Of The Day:

"garypower" on the UR site: "i was on one of the first couple of pages on this thread and decided like others to give it a go! my screen is now 2 months on, and its there as predicted, full of algea turf deep red brown colour and having to start using a blade to make space! my tank parems have gone to non-detectable po4 and zero nitrates! the tank in appearance looks like polished water yet i dont run carbon! my skimmer is now only running one hour every four hours with my ozone unit on a timer, i have a much better growth rate with my corals, there is less build up of algea on the glass i only use a magfloat once a week to clear very faint dusting of algea."
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:26 PM   #57
 
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Anyone know anyone who could build some acrylic scrubbers? People have been asking me to build them, but I don't want to.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:20 PM   #58
 
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Here's an idea: How about a directory of scrubber builders, with the following info on each builder:


Location:

City
State
Country

Material that the builder knows how to use:

PVC
Plastic
Acrylic
Glass

Components that the builder knows how to build:

Pipe
Screen
Frame for floppy screens
Bucket for screen
Box for screen
Sumps/Fuges with Scrubbers
HOB Scrubbers
HOT Scrubbers
LED Scrubbers


Misc:

Turn-around-time
Price range
Experience (number of scrubbers built)
Guarantees (if any)
Customer help after the sale
References
Misc items available (pump, timer, fan, unions, clips, etc)
Example drawings available?
How large/small can builder handle?


One problem with posting a directory is that it will need constant updating and re-posting. Would there be a better way to do it than posting in a thread? I could host it on my site where I put all the pics, or I could put it on the algae scrubber site. But ideal would be being able to post it here, and be able to edit it here.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:58 AM   #59
 
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Ok here is a directory template; If you would like to be listed as a scrubber builder, copy and paste the below info into a PM to me (do not post it here on the thread). I'll compile it from there...



Location (fill in)

Country:
State:
City:

Material that the builder has worked with (delete the rest)

PVC
Plastic
Acrylic
Glass

Components that the builder has built (delete the rest)

Pipe
Screen
Frame for floppy screens
Bucket for screen
Box for screen
Sumps/Fuges with Scrubbers
HOB Scrubbers
HOT Scrubbers
LED Scrubbers


Misc (fill in)

Turn-around-time:
Price range:
Experience (number of scrubbers built):
Guarantees (if any):
Customer help after the sale:
References:
Misc items available (pump, timer, fan, unions, clips, etc):
Example drawings available:
How large/small can builder handle:

Contact (fill in)

Phone:
Email:
Personal or Business Website:
Forum Username:
Forum Website:
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:13 AM   #60
 
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This is a big Success Of The Day: "zennzzo" on the MFK site has the first freshwater scrubber success story of any thread, and he did it with a solar powered scrubber! Has has an outdoor inflatable pond that went from this:






To this...






... and it's still improving. He's in Southern California, and here are the pertinent parts of his build:


10/10: Subscribed for sure. I'm going to try this oustside in the sunlight...I would think there is enough light?

10/12: I am building one right now with plexi sheet. Started with a 1/8th sheet of clear plexi. 32" x 15" = 480 sq. inches. (good for a 650gal huh?) I sanded the plexi sheet with 40 grit in a cross-hatch pattern. Did the frame with 3/4" PVC pipe and couplings. I cut the slots with a table saw for the water to flow and used zip ties to keep it in place. A 1/2" hose barb for the water inlet on a "T". I'm building the stand so it will set in a small rubbermaid tote. I'll run a submersible pump with prefilter via hose to the 1/2" hose barb, then I will plumb an overflow, 1" gravity fed, a few inches off the bottom of the tote, back to the pond. These are pics of what I have so far...










10/13: [Realized he needed screen and not plexi] Plastic Needlepoint canvas...piece of cake, WalMart carries that. Does the holes per inch matter?, because the thicker it is, the larger the holes are. [Answer: Not really]

10/15: [Will be in] direct sunlight aprox 7 hrs. AM sun on one side and PM sun on the other... southern exposure.

10/16: "sunshine on my scrub-ber, makes me hap-py" **





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