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maybe a saltwater 55g
Old 12-25-2010, 04:36 PM   #11
 
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Is there a HOB one I can buy.
For a hang on model with an overflow, check out the Octopus skimmer line. This one is probably what I would suggest:

Reef Octopus BH 300F Dual Hang-on-Back Protein Skimmer with Filter System* - AquaCave

This one would also get the job done, if saving $30 is a huge concern:

Reef Octopus BH 2000 Hang on Back Protein Skimmer by CoralVue - AquaCave
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:50 PM   #12
 
Now that would hang on the back lead to my stump (witch I need help making I would like to use a 20 gallon one
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:30 PM   #13
 
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Is there a HOB one I can buy. And also what is a good DYI stump setup

sounds to me that you are going to use a sump. this is a HOB prefilter Eshopps PF300 Overflow Box, 10-75 gal tank, Single - AquaCave. or this
CPR CS90 SIPHON AQUARIUM OVERFLOW BOX by CPR Aquatic - AquaCave
you plumb it to the sump and use a pump to return the water to the display tank. i'd use a skimmer like this
Vertex IN 80 In-Sump Protein Skimmer - AquaCave
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Reef Octopus NWB 110 Needle Wheel Protein Skimmer - AquaCave
i would only use a HOB type skimmer as a last resort only. The problem with HOB is that they are not that efficient and evaporation is a pain to deal with. the likelyhood to get micro bubbles inthe tank is quite high if you use a HOB skimmer too. I personally don't like them. do yourself a favor, go sump, surface skimming and use one of the above skimmer or something like those (needle wheel). for the extra $60 or so for the prefilter is worth all the headaches you'll save. trust me on that!
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:35 PM   #14
 
if you want to go cheap i would use a 20 gallon long aquarium, put the skimmer of choice in it, even without baffles, and a return pump with a return rate of 4 to 5 times the amount of water in your tank. so for a 55 gal the pump should be 200 to 300 gals/hr. this will make make microbubbles returned to your display tank unlikely.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:16 AM   #15
 
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I agree with reefs.... I did not realize you had decided to use a sump, but the advantages are awesome. You will be very glad you did. To give you further options, I am also impressed with this Marineland skimmer Marineland Pro In Sump Protein Skimmer 100 Marineland Pro Skimmer, and although it would not be my first choice, if money is a huge issue, the ASM Mini G would be the absolute bottom limit that i'd consider for a 55 gallon tank Mini G Series Skimmer | Venturi Models | Protein Skimmers | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com.

Keep in mind, one advantage to paying an extra $30 to $50 now is that you will be able to upgrade tank size to a 75 or even 90 gallon tank later without buying a new skimmer. It is a known fact that 110% of first time saltwater fishkeepers upgrade tank sizes within the first 10 minutes of setting up a new tank.

Additionally, spending a few extra bucks now on the best skimmer you can possibly afford will pay for itself by maintaining higher water quality. This means fewer water changes (saves $$$$ on salt mix) and less money spent on buffers and calcium supplements.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:08 AM   #16
 
for a diy just get yourself some aquarium silicone glue, get your tank, measure the inside width and cut a couple of baffles either by yourslf or get it cut at a glass cutting place and glue it together. here's a pic i found on google of a diy for reference.


believe me, the extra few $ is well worth it...... I could never understand when hobbiest go so cheap on equipment because they want to save a few $, then buy live stock to have them die prematurely and turn around and spend MORE $ to replace that live stock on a cycle! The equipment also makes the hobby easier to maintain water quality. There's places you can go cheap but there should be a minimum point you shouldn't go below. My newest fish in my tank is probably around 5 years old so believe me equipment goes a long way.
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:09 AM   #17
 
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To further those comments, in addition to equipment is the use of a Quarantine tank. If you are not setting up a quarantine then you are throwing money away and your odds of success are drastically reduced.

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...ne-tank-35693/
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:43 PM   #18
 
so right now i have on my list is a over flow box
http://www.aquacave.com/detail.aspx?ID=2849 and protein skimmer
http://www.marineandreef.com/Marineland_In_Sump_Protein_Skimmer_100_p/rml08130.htm and a 20 gallon long for my stump. Should i make chambers in it or will that not needed?
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Old 12-27-2010, 04:40 PM   #19
 
also where would be a good place to get live rock and what kind should I get.and for the sand could I just use any kind of sand
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:17 PM   #20
 
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so right now i have on my list is a over flow box
http://www.aquacave.com/detail.aspx?ID=2849 and protein skimmer
http://www.marineandreef.com/Marineland_In_Sump_Protein_Skimmer_100_p/rml08130.htm and a 20 gallon long for my stump. Should i make chambers in it or will that not needed?
Baffles are nice because they keep the water level constant in the skimmer section of the sump, improving the performance of the skimmer. For the very low cost of a couple pieces of glass, it is well worth it.

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also where would be a good place to get live rock and what kind should I get.and for the sand could I just use any kind of sand
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I use Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock for all my rock needs. Their Key Largo dry rock is excellent, as is their sand. Plus, shipping is very inexpensive. They offer 40 pounds of rock and 40 pounds of sand for $119. I would personally order 2 of these. 40 Pound box Key Largo Rock, <br>40 Pounds Bahamas Aragonite Sand<BR>Free Shipping<br> *in the continental US*<br>(*All sand ships USPS priority mail*) - KL40-40
$240 gives you 80 pounds of rock and your sand! You can't beat that with a stick. At the LFS you will be lucky to get 30 pounds of live rock for $240.

If you have any hesitation about this rock, take a second to look at my 180. I used almost all Key Largo dry rock. You could add about 10 pounds of live rock and the dry rock will seed quickly and within a few months you won't know which is which. Plus, it is pre cured.
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