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post #1 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 02:09 AM Thread Starter
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A buddy just dropped around and gave me a sump, its a lot bigger then mine and it set for an external pump...and has a good size Skimmer section unlike mine, still looking for an external skimmer as I got no room for an internal. anyway it had 850 Bio-balls in it, I'll palm them off on eBay and buy him a carton of beer :D
...now just got to think of a new set-up I guess ...

Saltwater 4foot (67gal) and Reef Rock/Plugs (300)Sump (12gal) with a 3000ltr/hr return pump(32watts)
1x 6025, 3 x TUNZE 6045 for flow.
Aquasonic Skimmer with 3000ltr pump
16watt UV. *5 Lights: 2 Actinics and 2 Daylights and 1 Gro-Lux.
*Fish @ the moment: Powder Blue Tang, South Seas Devil, Mandarinfish, Lemon Peel, Bi-colour angel, Coral beauty, Scopas Tang(4in), Coral Banded Shrimp(been in tank for 4/5yrs) and a Dusky Anemonefish(3in).. and 2 Red Base Sand Anemones..A pair peppermint shrimps.
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post #2 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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BIO BALLS

Why don't you want the bio balls? I don't have a sump and I'm looking into switching from my hang-on the back skimmer to a sump. Aren't those bio-balls a good thing?

55gal tank
SeaClone Protein Skimmer 100
All-glass 200watt heater
All-glass 24" Fluorescent 19 watt bulbs
Live Sand (50lbs?)
Live Rock
1 Coral Beauty (purple/orange)
1 Clark clown fish
1 dragon wrasse
1 Bangaii Cardinal

20gal tall tank
4 Goldfish
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1 crowntail betta tank w/undergravel filter
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post #3 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 07:15 PM
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unless cleaned often bioballs willl raise nitrates in your tank. Omg i cant belive you got that for free!
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post #4 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 07:32 PM Thread Starter
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I'll put the Live Reef Plugs in this one as I had Bio-cubes in my 67gal and the best I could get my Nitrate down to was 20ppm, with the 300 Reef Plugs in, I'm down and steady @5ppm. Though I never, over the 10years of being set-up did I give that sump a good flush through.( I only learnt this now off this site)
I got 300 in my 12gal sump so I should be able to get 500-550 in this one...I hope anyway
Rob.

Saltwater 4foot (67gal) and Reef Rock/Plugs (300)Sump (12gal) with a 3000ltr/hr return pump(32watts)
1x 6025, 3 x TUNZE 6045 for flow.
Aquasonic Skimmer with 3000ltr pump
16watt UV. *5 Lights: 2 Actinics and 2 Daylights and 1 Gro-Lux.
*Fish @ the moment: Powder Blue Tang, South Seas Devil, Mandarinfish, Lemon Peel, Bi-colour angel, Coral beauty, Scopas Tang(4in), Coral Banded Shrimp(been in tank for 4/5yrs) and a Dusky Anemonefish(3in).. and 2 Red Base Sand Anemones..A pair peppermint shrimps.
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post #5 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
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I can't belive it either, though I should go up and take some pics of my mate's tank and set up...you'll see why he doesn't use something this small.
its like going into a hospital, with all sorts of drip tubes, bad eggs smelly making thing and computer stuff

Saltwater 4foot (67gal) and Reef Rock/Plugs (300)Sump (12gal) with a 3000ltr/hr return pump(32watts)
1x 6025, 3 x TUNZE 6045 for flow.
Aquasonic Skimmer with 3000ltr pump
16watt UV. *5 Lights: 2 Actinics and 2 Daylights and 1 Gro-Lux.
*Fish @ the moment: Powder Blue Tang, South Seas Devil, Mandarinfish, Lemon Peel, Bi-colour angel, Coral beauty, Scopas Tang(4in), Coral Banded Shrimp(been in tank for 4/5yrs) and a Dusky Anemonefish(3in).. and 2 Red Base Sand Anemones..A pair peppermint shrimps.
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post #6 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 08:44 PM
You could remove the top glass and use that huge area as your skimmer chamber. You'd need to silicone in a taller piece of glass for that last bubble trap, say 6" tall to hold enough water for the skimmer to work well.
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post #7 of 12 Old 05-30-2007, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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... so use it with my set-up now? any chance you could draw a pic of what you mean?
how would I get the water into this skimmer sump(from old sump or from tank?) and then back to where, the other sump or back to the tank...
Sounds like a plan...i think

Saltwater 4foot (67gal) and Reef Rock/Plugs (300)Sump (12gal) with a 3000ltr/hr return pump(32watts)
1x 6025, 3 x TUNZE 6045 for flow.
Aquasonic Skimmer with 3000ltr pump
16watt UV. *5 Lights: 2 Actinics and 2 Daylights and 1 Gro-Lux.
*Fish @ the moment: Powder Blue Tang, South Seas Devil, Mandarinfish, Lemon Peel, Bi-colour angel, Coral beauty, Scopas Tang(4in), Coral Banded Shrimp(been in tank for 4/5yrs) and a Dusky Anemonefish(3in).. and 2 Red Base Sand Anemones..A pair peppermint shrimps.
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post #8 of 12 Old 05-31-2007, 09:54 PM
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Id say you didnt have enough bio balls or needed more flow to lower your Nitrates lower than 20ppm. I have 3,000 in my sump on my 450 and my nitrates stay around 10ppm with a few heavy bio load fish in the tank. Ive used them for a few years and never had a problem with them raising nitrates.
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post #9 of 12 Old 06-01-2007, 04:51 AM Thread Starter
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my tank ran for 10yrs with 320 bio-cubes with a 2000ltr/hour return pump, but with me not cleaning out the sump every now and then the last 2 or so yrs the nitrates crept up alot quicker.
but thats was then... now I'm stoked with the Reef plugs, there rated 1 plug per ltr, I put 300 in and my tanks about 250ltrs.
This is only early days with this set-up but am very confident with what I've done.

Saltwater 4foot (67gal) and Reef Rock/Plugs (300)Sump (12gal) with a 3000ltr/hr return pump(32watts)
1x 6025, 3 x TUNZE 6045 for flow.
Aquasonic Skimmer with 3000ltr pump
16watt UV. *5 Lights: 2 Actinics and 2 Daylights and 1 Gro-Lux.
*Fish @ the moment: Powder Blue Tang, South Seas Devil, Mandarinfish, Lemon Peel, Bi-colour angel, Coral beauty, Scopas Tang(4in), Coral Banded Shrimp(been in tank for 4/5yrs) and a Dusky Anemonefish(3in).. and 2 Red Base Sand Anemones..A pair peppermint shrimps.
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post #10 of 12 Old 06-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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my tank ran for 10yrs with 320 bio-cubes with a 2000ltr/hour return pump, but with me not cleaning out the sump every now and then the last 2 or so yrs the nitrates crept up alot quicker.
but thats was then... now I'm stoked with the Reef plugs, there rated 1 plug per ltr, I put 300 in and my tanks about 250ltrs.
This is only early days with this set-up but am very confident with what I've done.

Yeah but the technology has gotton alot better then it was 10 years ago.
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