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Old 06-24-2013, 10:58 AM   #11
 
After reading posts here, I suddenly want to start to at least a 55g tank. Seems I wont be enjoying it much with only 20g tank, in as much as having plenty of fish and corals is concerned :(
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:09 AM   #12
 
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After reading posts here, I suddenly want to start to at least a 55g tank. Seems I wont be enjoying it much with only 20g tank, in as much as having plenty of fish and corals is concerned :(
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I would go at least to a 75, if not a 90. The fish you can keep in a 55 is almost the same list as you can keep in a 20...
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:39 AM   #13
 
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Hi Wake and Eric... can I share something the LFS told me about SW? Gosh I hope he didn't lead me astray... Some day I also want to start my first SW, which is why I hang out in here... And I needed to upgrade my turtle home in the mean time. 75? or 90? (I only have 5' of space not 6' for a 120).
He said the 75 was the borderline for cost.... as soon as you go taller to the 90 you change everything equipment wise. So more/double the lighting cause the tank is deeper and this is expensive, sump rather than skimmer... that sort of thing. Did he advise me right Wake? There is an exponential cost division line at the 75 gallon point?
And if yes... if cost is somewhat of a factor then I agree get to the 75 gallon if you can. If money is no object... hey go for it.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:53 AM   #14
 
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BdLp.... can you elaborate as to what is the correct way to do this so others can learn too?
it would take me a month of sundays to do that! LOL

my suggestion is to search the archives here and read all you can. i know a lot of it will be pretty technical stuff but before you jump into a bigger tank (figuratively, of course), there are so many things you need to know.

i've been back in the hobby for just under 1 year after being out of it for 20 so my experiences are pretty limited at this point. heck, i'm still learning all of the new ways of doing things. twenty years ago, it was acceptable to cycle a tank with damsels or clowns. not so much any more!
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:58 AM   #15
 
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Hi Wake and Eric... can I share something the LFS told me about SW? Gosh I hope he didn't lead me astray... Some day I also want to start my first SW, which is why I hang out in here... And I needed to upgrade my turtle home in the mean time. 75? or 90? (I only have 5' of space not 6' for a 120).
They make this 150 gallon tank in a 3' model: Marineland 150 Reef-Ready Cube

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He said the 75 was the borderline for cost.... as soon as you go taller to the 90 you change everything equipment wise. So more/double the lighting cause the tank is deeper and this is expensive, sump rather than skimmer... that sort of thing. Did he advise me right Wake? There is an exponential cost division line at the 75 gallon point?
And if yes... if cost is somewhat of a factor then I agree get to the 75 gallon if you can. If money is no object... hey go for it.
I don't think that the 75 is borderline. It is dependent on if you want to do Reef or FOWLR. A reef will require better lighting (but I would buy the same fixture as far as a Reef went in either a 75 or 90) than a FOWLR to help coral produce zooanthelle. A Reef should have better filtration, but if you have excellent fitration on a FOWLR that is not a crime.

A sump and skimmer do not do the same thing, and I recommend both on tanks bigger than 29 gallons (but you can have either a sump or skimmer, or both, on any size tank). The sump is just an area below or behind the tank that is basically a 'holding tank'. It houses the heaters, skimmer, refugium, supply pump and any other equipment you don't want seen in the display. Read this: Understanding Sumps. The skimmer, on the other hand, is used to remove Dissolved Organic Compounds before they break down into nitrates in the system.

So to answer your question JB, I do not think there is a divisional line between 75 and 90. I think the bigger line is between Reef and FOWLR.

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Old 06-25-2013, 08:15 AM   #16
 
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Thanks Wake... sorry Eric I didn't mean to hijack but if you are learning too...
and I knew he would help (make me more confused!) give you more perspective on tanks and upgrading.
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