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A few questions about starting a new fowlr
Old 03-13-2009, 01:29 PM   #11
 
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i use a K4 in my reef. Two K2s would be fine, but if you feel the need two K3s. A 20L will be just fine for a sump, a bigger one doesnt have to be much more expensive. you can find a used tank on www.craigslist.com in your area for pretty cheap. feel free to check this thread out http://www.fishforum.com/saltwater-f...rogress-17236/ its a reef but its a 46 bow
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:11 PM   #12
 
I have actually taken most of the equipment from your tanks profile already.

I forgot to ask what is a good overflow box to buy? The tank is tempered so no chance of drilling.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:37 PM   #13
 
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you could go with a mag 7 and one of these
Continuous Siphon Overflow - CS90 - 1 in. bulkhead - 600 gph | Wet/Dry Aquarium Filters | Filters | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com
and if you go with the enclosed style your going to also want
Aqua Lifter Dosing Pump | Dosing Equipment | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com
the overflow is rated 600gph, the mag 7 is 700. the pump will have some head loss (gallons lost due to pumping up to the tank) and you can also " T " off the return line and add a ball valve that returns water to a section of the sump. this is so you can fine tune the water you pump up.
this is just an idea.
there is also a U-Tube style overflow which i hear is easier to clean.
the back wall of the tank prob. isnt tempered (unless you have contacted the manufacturer) so you could get bulkheads or a drilling kit and go that route. i just did that on my new tank and i dont think ill ever go a different route from now on. i used www.glass-holes.com and am very happy with their product. just another option. before doing any drilling though, see if you can contact the tank company and verify if its tempered or not.
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:52 PM   #14
 
You were right the back is not tempered. I definitely want to drill the tank as I think this will be much easier to maintain than the overflow.

Because I could not find this in any searches I did, and I ended up calling petsmart to find this out:
Topfin tanks are only tempered on the bottom pane, the sides are not tempered.

What size bulkhead do you think would suit this tank? 3/4" or 1"? Will this change the size of the pump?
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:25 PM   #15
 
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Will your sump sit under the stand? If so, i don't think you can fit a 20 long. If not, then a 20 long should be plenty for your tank.

I'm curious about the AquaC Urchin skimmer. They make some pretty outlandish claims on their web site, and the design of the skimmer looks no different than most. Has anyone seen this skimmer in action?
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:18 AM   #16
 
I didn't get a stand with the tank so I can make a stand to house the 20L.

I have seen a lot of recommendations for this skimmer so I thought I would give it a try. Would you recommend a different skimmer?
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:04 AM   #17
 
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I have never seen the AquaC in action, so I don't want to pass judgement. However, I have a lot of experience with protein skimmers and I see nothing about the design that makes me think it is as efficient as it claims to be. The thing is, the skimmer is painted black, so I have no idea what it looks like on the inside, which makes a world of difference.

The web site claims the AquaC is more efficient than the Red Sea Berlin, which I find difficult to imagine. I need to hear from someone who has actually used the AquaC or seen it up close.
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:49 PM   #18
 
What size bulkhead do you think would suit this tank? 3/4" or 1"? Will this change the size of the pump?

Also, do I need to have the protein skimmer when I first start up the tank? Or can I let it cycle and add the skimmer just before I add the first fish?
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:26 PM   #19
 
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You will get differing opinions on when to start the skimmer. Personally, I have always turned the skimmer on from day one, and I have never had any indication that the cycle was shortened as a result. I believe in removing organic waste and reducing impurities as early as possible, and I suspectl this helps to reduce the likelihood of future diatom and cyno outbreaks.

That being said, I think this issue is near the bottom of the list of important topics. Turn the skimmer on immediately, or turn it on after 3 weeks, it probably has little long term impact.
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:05 PM   #20
 
Personally, I didn't add mine until my cycle was done and I had a CUC in there.

But as Pasfur said, it probably makes no difference.
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